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28.09.07 19:18
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5132 Postings, 6952 Tage enis21trades can

12:56 3.340 900 +0.180 CIBC Merrill
12:56 3.340 800 +0.180 CIBC Byron Securities
12:56 3.340 300 +0.180 CIBC TD Securities
12:56 3.340 200 +0.180 TD Securities TD Securities
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12:55 3.310 2,000 +0.150 Salman Byron Securities
12:55 3.320 100 +0.160 Anonymous Byron Securities
12:54 3.310 2,400 +0.150 Salman TD Securities
12:53 3.300 600 +0.140 Jitney Group Anonymous
12:53 3.280 300 +0.120 Jitney Group Anonymous  

28.09.07 19:22
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363 Postings, 6898 Tage brutus1969biomüll

in erster Linie freue ich mich das ich günstig reingekommen bin. Wer meine Postings die letzen Monate verfolgt hat wird wissen das ich schon bei 4, 3 und 2,50 immer kurz davor war einzusteigen aber die Sommermonate und die Hypokrise mich davon abgehalten hat. Um das ganze Potential eines Explores auszuschöpfen muss man einfach günstig einsteigen.  

28.09.07 19:32
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5466 Postings, 6655 Tage bull2000Interessanter Auszug:

"Ich habe von der Euwax eine Zahl gehört, die ich sehr bedenklich halte. Was schätzen Sie, wie hoch die Mißerfolgsquote von Privatanlegern bei Optionsscheinen liegt. Ich verrate es Ihnen: 9,3 von 10 Anlegern verlieren ihr Geld. Das ist haarsträubend."

 

28.09.07 19:39

5466 Postings, 6655 Tage bull2000@brutus: Herzlichen Glückwunsch, aber in 6

Monaten dürfte es fast egal sein, ob man bei 2 € oder 3 € eingestiegen ist. Da bleibt dann immer noch genug hängen. In diesem Sinne.....  

28.09.07 20:21
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5132 Postings, 6952 Tage enis21Parnham ist ja in China

vielleicht bringt er ja mal was für uns mit ;-)


schönen feierabend u. weekend @ all

gruß enis21  

28.09.07 20:27

3078 Postings, 6543 Tage Borusse1969enis21

Das hoffe ich auch.
Ab Heute wollen die Chinesen doch ihren Dollarüberschuss anlegen.
Oder?
Gruß
Borusse1969
( 2:1 Sieg )  

28.09.07 21:07
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5847 Postings, 6880 Tage biomuell2008: Bush Absichtserklärung

zu Treibhauseffekt; Kernenergie: siehe

http://www.orf.at/ticker/266619.html

wie ich immer sage: liegen lassen und Geduld haben  

28.09.07 21:09

448 Postings, 6642 Tage SuperGarfielddie neusten Bohrergebnisse

haben doch maßlos enttäuscht.
Nun ist Forsys das was sie wirklich sind: ein ganz normaler Uranexplorer.
Das bringt endlich ein vernünftiges Maß der Bewertung.
Hab sie schon lang auf der Watchlist, aber noch lass ich die Finger davon, sonst werden sie verstrahlt.
 

28.09.07 22:22
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3078 Postings, 6543 Tage Borusse1969ohne Jolly

Maßlos enttäuscht?

Aha

2 Euro waren super Einkaufkurse

Ohne Jolly

Und jetzt?

 

29.09.07 00:03
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23 Postings, 6705 Tage quattroAAsKurs

Ich frage mich wie hier noch so viel Optimismus verbreitet werden kann? Der Kurs ist mehr als nur im Keller, und die ganze Phantasie von der diese Aktie lebt ist dahin. Warum sollte der Kurs jetzt noch steigen????????????????? Seien wir uns einmal ehrlich, dass wir (mein kurs ca 4,1) uns in Forsys getäuscht haben!
Wünsch euch trotzdem noch ein schönes Weekend!
 

29.09.07 00:04
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23 Postings, 6705 Tage quattroAAsPs: Hoffe ich bekomme nicht gleich die schwarzen Sterne,

nur weil ich anderer Meinung bin  

29.09.07 04:37
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5132 Postings, 6952 Tage enis21es wird noch weiter gehn !

fand ich ganz entspannend aus dem nachbar-thread  
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29.09.07 11:39
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5132 Postings, 6952 Tage enis21interessant China/Forsys- Forsys/China !?

China’s Battle for African Uranium
May 22, 2007 02:03 PM EST


As reported by the Wall Street Journal, Sunday night’s revelations that China National Nuclear Corp (CNNC) may strengthen its ties to UraMin could represent a broader picture than an ordinary acquisition of a near-term uranium producer.

There is an ongoing global war for energy security, which appears to be politically inspired. China and Russia are the main opponents, especially in Africa, but have rivaled each other, over the past several years, in Central Asia. The goal for both nations is not only energy security but political influence and alliance over their targeted territories.

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On May 12th, Russia, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan signed a declaration to upgrade and expand transport pipelines along the Caspian Sea coast directly to Russia. The project relies mainly upon the vast Turkmen gas reserves. This is part of Russia’s growing monopoly of Central Asian gas. Although Europe was shocked by Vladimir Putin’s new arrangement, the Chinese were flabbergasted.

We’ve been following developments in Central Asia, and had reported upon milestone events in both of our uranium publications, and again (with far greater details) in our soon-to-be-released Investing in China’s Energy Crisis.

After more than two decades in power, Turkmen strongman Saparmurat Niyazov passed away this past December. In April 2006, Niyazov had signed a framework agreement on oil and gas cooperation. By August, Niyazov had announced a pipeline, designed to pump gas to China, would be opened in 2009. The deal died with the dictator, it appears.

A few weeks ago, a spokesman for China’s National Reform and Development Committee announced China was unlikely to reach its natural gas target of a 10-percent portion of the country’s energy portfolio by 2010. Increasingly, Russia has shut China out of Central Asia in obtaining long-term, multiple energy sources.

Aside from South America, where China has strengthened the country’s ties with Venezuela and others, Africa is a prime hunting ground for China’s future energy security. China has established a strong foothold in the Sudan for petroleum. But, Africa is rich in uranium deposits.

According to a report published by the International Atomic Energy Agency in 2005, Africa has 18 percent of the world’s known recoverable uranium resources – about six percent less than Australia and one percent more than Kazakhstan. We began coverage on both Namibia and Niger, after Russia sent a delegation to Egypt to discuss the nuclear renaissance. At the time, our research pointed to Africa, particularly those countries, as ripe for future uranium production. Chinese prospectors raced to Niger within weeks after our initial coverage.

During 2006, Namibia became saturated with numerous exploration plays hoping to capitalize on the country’s uranium resources and relaxed environment. Consequently, the Namibian Minister of Mines and Energy closed the country’s exploration window. Since then, Niger has become a new hunting ground. We expect this country to become just as saturated as Namibia has been.

China is eager to capitalize upon the continent’s uranium resources before Russia outmaneuvers them as has been accomplished in Central Asia.

According to an email we received from TradeTech’s Gene Clark, after presenting at the China Power & Alternative Energy Summit on May 18th, he told us China’s official target for nuclear power capacity was ‘40 GWe by 2020 and another 18 GWe in the following five-year plan.’ This confirms China’s aggressive plans to acquire sufficient uranium to reach this capacity, and would be foolish to rely on just Australia.

Typically, China has built its energy portfolio through numerous deals across multiple regions. This past October, Yang Changli, vice president of China National Nuclear, said it would seek uranium not only from Australia, but from Canada, Kazakhstan, South Africa and Namibia. In an interview Yang gave during the 15th Pacific Basin Nuclear Conference, he said, “China won't rely on any single supplier of uranium because of energy security considerations. Namibia is the First African Focus of Uranium Politiques
On May 14th, Russia’s second-largest bank Vneshtorgbank and Russia’s state-run nuclear exporter Tekhsnabexport announced they were considered a joint venture to operate in Namibia through licenses they directly hold and through investments in other companies which have obtained licenses in Namibia.

In March Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Fradkov announced his country was prepared to building nuclear plants in Namibia. Neighboring South Africa had previously warned Namibia to expect reductions in energy supplies. Namibia is dependent upon South Africa for electricity and has forecast an energy deficit of 300 megawatts within the next three years.

On May 10th, Russia and Kazakhstan signed an agreement to set up the International Uranium Enrichment Center, anticipated to come onstream by 2013. As part of this announcement, Sergei Kiriyenko, head of the Federal Nuclear Power Agency, said, “Any country can become a member of the center by signing an intergovernmental agreement granting it guaranteed access to uranium enrichment services.” We conclude Namibia may wish to participate in this arrangement.
Enter CNNC on Sunday night. The Chinese company’s deputy general manager for uranium procurement announced to Bloomberg News that CNNC and UraMin will start ‘more formal’ talks this week.

UraMin is a prime acquisition candidate for the Chinese because of its uranium prospects in both Namibia and Niger. The company also has holdings in South Africa and the Central African Republic.

We are now facing a new era of uranium politics or rather ‘Uranium Politiques.’ And there is good reason for this to escalate. Yesterday, the U.S. Energy Information Administration issued ‘International Energy Outlook 2007.’ The report announced, “World marketed energy is expected to grow by 57 percent between 2004 and 2030.”

The most rapid growth in energy demand is anticipated in non-OECD Asia. The majority of this energy demand growth would come from China and India. This was the reference case – the middle ground of growth.

Also on Monday, leading Russian nuclear expert Yevgeny Velikhov, head of the Kurchatov Institute, told reporters at a news conference that the recent surge in uranium prices “may still grow by another order of magnitude.” He believes the uranium price will continue to rise as global uranium demand soars while supplies remain tight. “The global energy market is very turbulent,” Velikhov said. “The uranium price can hit any mark at a time of crisis.” Ironically, both crisis and turbulence have come about because of the Asian and Russian scramble to lock-up the uranium resources of entire countries.
The energy battle in Africa is good news for the two front-runners in Namibia: UraMin and Forsys Metals. We’ve called this a horse race, over the past several months. Both endeavor to become the ‘next miner’ following Paladin Resources in this country.

Yet, both companies are vulnerable to acquisition efforts by Russian or Chinese companies. Or either could be acquired by one or more majors hoping to build up their uranium reserves. In the case of Rio Tinto, acquiring one or both could mean expanding uranium operations in this country.

Acquisition Candidates
Just as the announcement by Energy Metals Corp, regarding a potential sale of the company, fueled weekend speculation as to the ‘next’ takeover candidates, the same could occur this week with African acquisition candidates.

One might be misled into believing China would focus on Niger, where the company has built a foundation, and Russia’s focus would remain in Namibia. However, in a state visit to China this week, Namibian Defense force chief exchanged views with Guo Boxiong, Central Military Commission vice chairman, on promoting relations between the two countries.

In February, Chinese President Hu Jintao visited Namibia to sign an economic deal with Namibia giving the country a grant of US$4.3 million and an interest-free loan of the same amount. Reportedly, some of the money would be used to boost group tourism from China to Namibia. This is the same tactic China has utilized in courting relationships in South America to help develop natural resource deals.

With US$1.2 trillion in foreign currency reserves, China is exercising its financial biceps. In March, the country formed the Huijin Fund as the state’s investment arm. Up to US$400 billion have reportedly been placed in this fund for investment purposes. On Sunday night, the Huijin Fund invested US$3 billion to purchase a stake in about 9.9 percent of the Blackstone private equity firm. Our research suggests the fund is likely to strongly invest in natural resources.

On this basis, we can not rule out a simple carving of Africa. We don’t believe China will quietly step back and focus the country’s uranium acquisition efforts in Niger, permitting Russia to concentrate on Namibia and South African uranium.

In Niger, we covered two ‘early days’ prospective uranium juniors over a year ago. North Atlantic Resources acquired a uranium permit in the 1900-square kilometer Abelajouad in this country. This past April, the company increased its holdings to nearly 3,000 square kilometers. In late April, Northwestern Mineral Ventures announced uranium mineralization in assays from rock samples after a first-pass reconnaissance on its In Gall and Irhazer uranium properties. Both would need to further explore their properties before attracting serious interest from the Chinese.

However, in Namibia both UraMin and Forsys Metals are actively progressing toward mining uranium on their properties. Either could be the first, but we believe both should become winners in the uranium bull market. Because China has carefully aligned with UraMin, or at least shown an inkling to do so, we suspect Russia might begin to look more carefully at Forsys Metals. This is purely speculation based upon our premise of ‘uranium Politiques.’ We do not have any ‘inside track’ on this matter.

Fortunately, we had the opportunity to chat with Forsys chief executive Duane Parnham late last week. His company had announced the completion of the pre-feasibility study on the company’s Valencia uranium deposit in Namibia. We missed the company’s conference call, but were allowed the opportunity to discuss his company’s prospects and future plans during a telephone call.

The company’s pre-feasibility study was prepared by Australia-based Snowden Mining, which used the guidelines of Australia’s JORC code. Subsequently, the Valencia uranium mineral reserve was classified as Probable Reserves. These were calculated at 24 million pounds U3O8.

We asked about production. “We are now modeling 2.4 million pounds per year,” Parnham told us. He expects to payback in less than two years. With Forsys as with all near-term producers, some early conversations have begun about pre-selling the company’s uranium production after production has commenced.

His company’s news release talked about six month of stripping during the initial part of the operation so we started there. “We’ll start when we get a mining license and then looking at production.” When will the company complete its ongoing environmental assessment? “We are hoping to have an environmental decision by year end,” Parnham told us. “We are hoping to have enough data to apply for a mining license in early 2008. If that’s successful, then obviously the decision to go forward will be made at that time.”

For the time being, the company plans to expand its resource. “The pre-feasibility is just the first snapshot of the situation,” he said. “We are finding the pit optimization study is only looking at a very small portion of the overall resource.” Does that mean the resource is actually larger, then? “It’s a heck of a lot bigger,” he told us. “It’s just a function of how much data you have available to punch into the model. Then, how much does the model give you back? The evaluation process is ongoing. You’ll probably see a change in the pit design very shortly because we have the ability to move more resource into the reserve category.”

We talked about his company’s horse race with UraMin. How does it look? “Neck and neck, toe to toe,” Parnham said. “I think it shows there’s opportunity in Namibia, and that’s good that there are a number of us working for a common goal.”

Finally, we asked what has emerged as the key question: Is Forsys a ripe plum for the picking. He offered both sides of the coin. “Where the real opportunity lies is putting a property into production,” he responded. “The operation isn’t all that difficult so it’s not a deposit that our expanding team couldn’t put into production.” And then Parnham left the door open. “Anything can happen. It’s an open market, and we are a public company. But, we are certainly geared toward putting this into production.”

And from what we’ve seen among the recent, significant consolidations, those companies who have commenced production, and those closest to production, are the prime acquisition candidates. Why should companies developing projects in Africa become the exception instead of the rule? Especially when two super powers are both eagerly trying to establish stronger uranium footholds in this continent.

COPYRIGHT© 2007 by StockInterview, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

 

29.09.07 20:23
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7765 Postings, 7157 Tage polo10Aus WO kopiert und irgendwie auch hier zutreffend

gornikzabrze schrieb :
""Man oh man, Typen wie ihr seid der Grund, warum ich seit fast 10 Jahren bei WO nur mitgelesen habe. Ihr könnt einfach nicht ertragen, wenn jemand etwas gegen Eure Wunschvorstellungen schreibt. Zu einer substanziellen Auseinandersetzung, sind nur die wenigsten hier in der Lage und verwechseln das kritische Hinterfragen der Kursentwicklung mit Bashen. Jede Kritik wird als organisierte Kursmanipulation abgewertet. Das Einzige, was akzeptiert wird, sind Beiträge, die die eigene heile Welt nicht stören und den festen Glauben an die "eigene Aktie" nicht ins Wanken bringen.
Monatelang dem Kursverfall zusehen; alle Warnzeichen ignorieren; Verschwörungstheorien aufstellen; andere für die eigenen Verluste verantwortlich machen; keinerlei Anlagestrategie erkennen lassen; kein Stop-Loss-Management; auf Frick und Konsorten hoffen; Kursraketen aus Förtsch-Pamphleten kaufen und dann, an einen Tag, an dem der Kurs nach langer Durststrecke mal grün erscheint die Prollfresse aufreißen oder sich über Boardteilnehmer lustig machen, die im Verlust verkauft haben. Einfach nur armseelig!
Das ist die Realität bei WO, bis auf wenige Ausnahmen.""
 

01.10.07 10:36
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129 Postings, 6816 Tage denker17heute

hat wohl niemand lust zuschreiben.  

01.10.07 11:07
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14875 Postings, 6825 Tage minesfanmit grüßen von hedera

Der Kurs ist zwar noch weit unter dem fairen Wert, aber Freitag ging es doch zumindest mal kräftig aufwärts.
Kanada hat dann sogar noch höher geschlossen, und zwar bei umgerechnet 2.415 EUR (!).
Das sieht doch nicht allzu schlecht aus für diese Woche.
Überhaupt sah mir der heutige Kursverlauf so aus, als hätte es einen grössere Abgeber gegeben, und zwar schon seit Mitte der Woche, und als wäre der dann heute mit dem Rest seiner Verkäufe durch gewesen und schon geht es wieder signifikant aufwärts.
Bei 2,24 EUR stand ein letzter grosser Block über 46.300 Stück auf der Verkaufsseite, und nachdem der weggekauft war, ging es geradewegs nach oben.

Hoffen wir mal das beste für die diese Woche, es wäre wirklich schön, wenn die Aktie sich mal wieder ihrem fairen Wert annähern würde, dazu müsste sie aber noch sehr weit steigen.
Interessant wird, wie der Uran-Preis sich Anfang Oktober entwickeln wird.
Ich gehe von steigenden Uranpreisen aus, nachdem die Bodenbildung abgeschlossen ist und der Uranverbrauch durch Atomkraftwerke ja ungebrochen ist bzw. stetig steigt.
Sobald der Uranpreis auch nur minimal steigt, wird das viele Käufer auf den Plan rufen, die zur Zeit noch an der Seitenlinie stehen und auf einen Wiedereinstieg warten.
Mit Käufer meine ich sowohl Käufer auf Rohstoffseite, als auch Käufer für die entsprechenden Aktien, die ja wie erwähnt quasi ein Hebelprodukt auf diesen Rohstoff sind.
Wenn der Uranpreis steigt, wird es bei Forsys wohl jede Menge zusätzliche Käufer geben.

Sobald Forsys die 3 EUR nachhaltig überschreitet, ist der Weg nach oben frei.
Hier braucht man im Zweifelsfall etwas Geduld, hat aber meiner Meinung nach wie vor eine Chance auf einen Verdoppler.

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An den Tagen, wo es gut läuft freue ich mich, an den Tagen wo es schlecht läuft, denke ich an die Tage, wo es gut lief!  

01.10.07 11:31
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8889 Postings, 7005 Tage petrussWunschdenken

Forsys muss erst 30% steigen damit der Weg nach oben Frei ist. :) Das Geld liegt ja auf der Straße....  

01.10.07 12:31
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4618 Postings, 6751 Tage chinaloveraktien review Newsletter

Newsletterausgabe, 30-09-2007

Liebe Newsletter-Abonnenten,

Forsys Metals kam am 25. September 2007 mit den zum Teil sehnsüchtig
erwarteten ersten Bohrergebnissen zur relativ „neu“ entdeckten
Uranzone mit dem Namen „Joly“ an den Markt und musste daraufhin
zunächst deutliche Kursverluste hinnehmen. Es wurden sogleich
unterschiedliche Interpretationen der Results vorgenommen,
mit zum Teil, aus unserer Sicht, abenteuerlichen Analysen zur aktuellen
Werthaltigkeit von Forsys Metals angesichts der neuen Situation.
Speziell im Vergleich zu anderen angehenden Uranproduzenten
erscheinen uns die Vergleiche recht unangebracht. Unsere
Abonnenten wissen indes, wie Forsys Metals rechnerisch exakt zu
bewerten ist und wie man diese News korrekt einzuordnen hat.
Dennoch werden wir in unserer kommenden Ausgabe am Montag
ein Update mit der korrekten Einordnung der letzen News erstellen,
damit es aufgrund der zum Teil irreführenden Analysen am Markt
später zu keinem bösen Erwachen kommt.  

01.10.07 12:47
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4618 Postings, 6751 Tage chinaloverTwo Australian studies positive on uranium outlook

Investors in Australian uranium shares would have been comforted by two studies that have claimed the uranium price slip was bottoming and the upside in the coming years would be positive.

Author: Ross Louthean
Posted:  Monday , 01 Oct 2007

PERTH -  

The Australian team for Deutsche Bank's Global Markets Research believes that while the broking house's projection on the future uranium spot price has now been lowered it would still be robust at least until the end of 2009, and perhaps beyond.

A revision on a June quarter assessment was that the projected 2007 spot price would average lower at $US101.35/lb, would then average $US128.75/lb in 2008 and be about $US130/lb in 2009 before tapering to $US95/lb in 2010.

A serious imbalance would remain between supply and demand until 2009 "at the very least," the latest report said.

However, "the risks for more potential market deficits beyond then are considerable."

Deutsche Bank saw this as a "time to buy" selected stocks and it nominated two Australian producers - Energy Resources of Australia Ltd (ERA) which has the Ranger mine in the Northern Territory and Paladin Resources Ltd which recently commissioned the Langer Heinrich mine in Namibia and is developing a second mine, Kayelekera in Malawi.

The broking house also saw price growth potential in Marathon Resources which holds the Mount Gee project in the Flinders Ranges of South Australia and Uranex NL which was delivering strong exploration results from Thatchers Soak in Western Australia and Bahi in Tanzania, and had an evolving project called Mkuju in southern Tanzania.

Deutsche Bank said that ERA's 2007 production capability was dogged with uncertainty due to elevated water levels in Ranger's operating pit as a consequence of a heavy Wet season. This limited mining of high grade zones deeper in the pit and, at one point, the company's 2007 forecast output was reduced to 4,750 tonnes of U308, with 2008 expecting only about 3,350t U308.

Deutsche Bank said, however ERA appears to have achieved a significant milestone in gaining approvals to irrigate land before initiation of the Wet season. The company is undertaking several strategies including increasing the rate of water removal that should see Pit 3 emptied by November.

Full year output in 2007 was now likely to exceed 5,200t while output in 2008 could exceed 5,000t.

Meanwhile, Sydney-based Resource Capital Research in its September quarter study was more circumspect about the near-term rise for spot uranium, predicting it to reach $US90/lb by early 2008 and $US120/lb by September 2008.

A positive ahead seen by RCR was that planned and proposed new nuclear power reactors worldwide increased strongly from January to August 2007. As reported by the World Nuclear Association, this category has increased from 222 reactors (January 29) to 304 reactors (August 30), an increase of 82 reactors (or 37%).

China announced 114 planned and proposed new nuclear power reactors, up from 63 in January '07 (an increase of 81%); and the US is up from 23 in January '07 to 32 units (up 39%).

RCR's study covered global uranium exploration and development companies with a focus on Australia, Canada, the United States and United Kingdom. RCR said more than 500 junior and mid cap explorers, development and production companies were identified in this review that took in uranium exploration "districts" Australia, Canada, US, Argentina, Peru, Mongolia, Zambia, Tanzania and Namibia.

RCR's principal, John Wilson, said the share market valuation of the selection of Australian uranium juniors was up 6% over the past month, down 19% over the past three months, and up 78% over the past 12 months. This compared with a selection of Canadian uranium juniors, up 15% over the past month, down 13% over the past 3 months, and up 68% over the past 12 months.

Australian uranium companies are in aggregate trading at 45% off their 12 month highs and Canadian uranium companies are trading at 48% off their 12 month high.

Juniors are making solid progress advancing through important project milestones. Energy Metals Ltd (Bigrlyi, NT) and Western Prospector Group (Gurvanbulag, Mongolia) have scoping studies pending. Bannerman Resources released its Goanikontes, Namibia scoping study 3Q07.

http://www.mineweb.net/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/...oid=37650&sn=Detail  

01.10.07 14:05

155 Postings, 6718 Tage td76warum 2,20$??

Wie kann den Parnham an 27.Sep für 2,20$ kaufen? Sind das Stock options?  

01.10.07 15:09

5132 Postings, 6952 Tage enis21das frag ich mich auch ??!

keine Ahnung...  

01.10.07 15:16
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1059 Postings, 6829 Tage tho710FFM

Da gehen ja riesengroße Pakete in FFM über den Tisch!!!!

Sieht gut aus!  

01.10.07 17:19
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8889 Postings, 7005 Tage petrussJa

das ist ein dilemma hier! Kurs fällt weiter.  

01.10.07 17:22
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5132 Postings, 6952 Tage enis21eine absolute scheißaktie

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