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14.09.12 09:26

1841 Postings, 6083 Tage BioLogicWie

Wichtig fuer euch immer diese Aktienkurse zu einem bestimmten Zeitpunkt sind.

Was bringt euch das? Beruhigt euch das innerlich, wenn ihr eure Aktienanzahl mit einem gewünschten Aktienpreis rechnet und ihr dann euer Kapital ausrechnet??

Ich mein das auch nicht böse oder so, aber nehmt doch alles einfach so wie es kommt... Wenn wir von 3 Euro auf 2,20 fallen haben doch die meisten schon wieder verkauft , .. Eure Aktivitäten könnt ihr doch jetzt noch nicht Voraussagen...

Ich habe tradingpositionen aber auch Long in Stans, weil die Aktie es zulässt!


LG
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Posts sind keine Empfehlung zum Kauf oder Verkauf.
Alle Posts stellen nur meine eigene Meinung dar.

14.09.12 10:12
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423 Postings, 4660 Tage Kettl_a1Wie

Nun lass uns halt den Spass, mal im Geiste Donald Duck's Onkel zu spielen. Wir sind alle nur Menschen, Kleingeister, die ab und zu etwas zum Aufbauen brauchen. Wie alle, haben wir ein Kurzzeitgedaechtniss für Negative Erlebnisse und das ist gut so. Für meinen Teil, ich war schon bei>>+100%, vor fast 2 Jahren sowas,aber mein Ziel ist gesteckt...nicht in Zahlen, sondern in Richtung Erfolg. Ich (natürlich höhere Gewalt ausgeschlossen) bleibe drin bis zur erfolgreichen Inbetriebnahme zumindest und dass sind sicherlich noch 2 Jahre. Wenns schief geht (kann gar nicht, denn ich hatte diese Investition innerlich schon vor ein paar Monaten abgeschrieben, aber es kommt offensichtlich nun doch besser als erwartet), dann war es den Versuch zumindest Wert. Geld auf Fonds zu legen ist nicht mein Bier.  

14.09.12 10:25
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2628 Postings, 4681 Tage farrierWie könnten die Chin. besser den Markt kontroll. ?

14.09.12 22:59
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1420 Postings, 5482 Tage madoldShareholder Update September 14, 2012

Dear Friends and Shareholders:

Over the past month here in Kyrgyzstan there have been significant and fundamental changes occurring both in governing coalitions, and mining legislation. In this environment, Stans Energy Corp. has been attempting to complete its negotiations with the State Geological Agency and The State Property Fund.

As of September 5th, a new coalition government was formed and a new Prime Minister has been selected. PM Zhantoro Satybaldiyev has said publicly that he is supportive of foreign investors in Kyrgyzstan, that government will respect property rights and will further implement systems whereby licence holders are protected from arbitrary annulments. The new mining legislation taking effect on September 17th further outlines these rights. Namely, that a lack of response from a government agency does not constitute a grounds for licence revocation, that there be NO mandatory transfer of shares to government agencies as a condition of licensing, and most importantly mechanisms will be put in place to ensure proper compliance with all legislation both for private companies and government agencies.

On September 12th, the head of the State Agency for Geology and Mineral Resources (SGA); Mr. U. Tashbaev, has been replaced by Mr. Ishimbay Chunuev. Our recent work stoppage by the SGA was issued at the time Mr. U. Tashbaev was overseeing its activities. We are hopeful to continue our working relationship with the SGA under the guidance of Mr. I. Chunuev, who as a respected mining expert, brings to the table significant knowledge of the intricacies of mining operations, having spent part of his career working at Centerra Gold's Kumtor Mine.

Although the past several weeks have been challenging, we continue to negotiate openly and in good faith with the required agencies responsible for compliance with Licence Agreement #3. We will be working closely with these agencies to resolve any issues and to further the development at Kutessay II in preparation for production.

While these negotiations are ongoing our lawsuits against the Jogorku Kenesh Committee and the SGA for the illegal suspension of our License are ongoing. Our strategy is to establish precedents of law that would protect our shareholder interests moving forward.

Hopefully together with our Kyrgyz counterparts, we can move our project forward and raise the profile of Kyrgyzstan to the global investment community.

Regards,
David Vinokurov
Vice President, Corporate Development

https://ssa.actemarketing.com/speasapage.aspx?X=5N10XTLGI4RBL66W00Y5WT  

16.09.12 23:11
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1420 Postings, 5482 Tage madoldStill und heimlich ...

Danke Traderwatch für die neue Präsentation. Was mir auf Seite 16 ins Auge sprang ist folgende Info, die klare Fortschritte in Richtung Inbetriebnahme zeigt:

• OperationalTesting has commenced
• 50 kg of Dysprosium produced using Ion Exchange technology – Q3 2012

Zudem auf Seite 31, die Bohrungen betreffend:

Continue to explore:
• August 2012 deep drilling of areas of know mineralization
• 2829 m program to delineate pit contained blind orebodies

Still und heimlich, wird nicht an die große Glocke gehängt. Geht es immer noch darum, die Verhandlungen um die kirgisische Beteiligung nicht zu stören?

Wir sind m. E. auf dem richtigen Weg. Gruß, mad  

17.09.12 02:47
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388 Postings, 5481 Tage Traderwatch@madold

bitteschön.

 

hier noch was ....  

 

TMR Advanced Rare Earth Projekts Index ( last updated 10 August 2012)  

 

http://www.techmetalsresearch.com/metrics-indices/...-projects-index/

 

Still und heimlichen Gruß ,  T. ;-)

 

17.09.12 09:55

423 Postings, 4660 Tage Kettl_a1Nicht zu vergessen!

...bitte sorgfaeltig lesen:



Note: Ho-Er-Tm-Yb-Lu oxides excluded from pricing models.  

17.09.12 10:01

423 Postings, 4660 Tage Kettl_a1Wir haben....

Yttrium Terbium Europium Dysprosium Gadolinium Holmium Erbium Thulium Luteium Ytterbium Lanthanum Cerium Praseodymium Neodymium Samarium  

17.09.12 10:49
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423 Postings, 4660 Tage Kettl_a1Noch einmal.....

....vom Roten Zwerg zur Supernova....
Irgendwelche aergere ich mich, dass ich nicht jetzt eingestiegen bin, sondern vor zu langer Zeit, wie einer unserer kollegen in unserer Mitte. Nun das ganze nochmal, hahaha.

Etwas ist doch ziehmlich erstaunlich. Wir haben eine Mine und eine ehemalige Prod Staette, deren funktion nun eigentlich (zumindest der Prozess) nachgewiesen wurde. Wir sind nicht ein schwarzes Loch ( black hole) punkto Profit/investment ratio, wie so manche andere, wenn ich mir die Basketpreise so reinziehe. Nein, wir haben sogar ( im Augenblick) mehr Geld auf der Bank als so manche Mine "market cap" besitzt. Nun, mit 180grad Kehrtwendung in Kyrghisischer foreign und Mining Politik müssten interessierte Investoren und JV Partner einen Knall haben, wenn Bei denen nicht die SIRENEN "AUF TEUFEL KOMM  RAUS" EXTREMLY BUY ALERT stehen. JV partner/auch zukünftige Abnehmer können sich ihre Rohstoffversorgung sichern und auch noch Geld an Stans als Teilhaber machen, also eine Double winn Situation hier.
Es würde mich sehr wundern, wenn Stans nicht am Rande der kritischen Masse herumtorkelt.
Mal sehen, was diese Woche bringt. Würde mich wirklich interessieren, wie unser SP heute auf  -4.55 kommen konnte. Kann doch niemand so blöd sein und jetzt verkaufen, oder?  

17.09.12 11:24
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423 Postings, 4660 Tage Kettl_a1J.L. Report...offensichtlich nicht Stans Liebkind

Where Are The Non-Chinese Heavy Rare Earths Going To Come From And Who’s Going To Buy Them?
by JACK LIFTON on SEPTEMBER 16, 2012 · 8 COMMENTS
in NEWS ANALYSIS, RARE EARTHS
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The iconic mid-twentieth century American bank-robber, Willy Sutton, is famously reputed to have answered the question “Why do you rob banks?” with “because, that’s where the money is.”

So, by analogy, I am going to answer the question “Why are Chinese rare-earth producers looking for rare-earth deposits outside of China?” by using Willy Sutton’s logic – “it’s because that’s where the heavy rare earths are.” China has been and remains at this moment the only commercial source, and the only commercial source that there has ever been, of the critical heavy-rare-earth elements (HREEs) dysprosium (Dy), terbium (Tb) and yttrium (Y).

Chinese geologists and resource economists have been openly saying for several years that China has at the most, if demand remains at present levels of growth, between 5 and 30 years of production of the HREEs remaining at present levels. This would mean, for example, that China could continue to produce 1400 t of Dy per year for perhaps another generation. But this fails to take into account the steady growth in demand for Dy, Tb and Y. Even if less of them can be used in each unit of production, the number of units of production is growing much faster than any thrifting can possibly contain. A Chinese and/or Indian consumer driven economy would (will) turn the rare-earth market inside out.

Chinese HREEs are almost entirely produced from very low-grade, highly weathered (broken down from hard rock into finer grain material) deposits that today present themselves as surface clay that has absorbed and adsorbed rare-earth elements (REEs) washed through them from rocks disintegrating over many millions of years in the rain and snow. In China these clays have advantageously not retained the radioactive components of the hard-rock REE minerals from which their REE content originated; the typical concentration of the total REEs in a clay deposit, however, is just 0.03%. However of this the element Dy, for example, constitutes 2% or more.

The processing of these clays consists of washing them with chemical reagents into which the REEs dissolve and from which the REEs do not redeposit into and onto the clay minerals. This process is mechanically simple. The selected reagents are pumped to the highest point in the “deposit” and then allowed to drain through it. The drainage is directed by piping or plastic lined channels to catch ponds, and is recirculated until the solution is measured as near saturation (it will hold no more REEs without their precipitating out). Then the material flow is stopped and the REEs are chemically precipitated in the catch ponds as compounds that are no longer soluble in the extracting reagents. The mixed REE solids (usually carbonate or oxalate compounds) are removed and new reagents are added to the reactants to make up the losses and the cycle is repeated until no more REEs can be extracted (economically) in a reasonable time.

This same method when used in gold mining is called heap-leaching, and it typically uses a cyanide solution as the extracting reagent. The solubilized gold is recovered by adding zinc, carbon, or a similar reducing agent to the near saturated extractant. This “heap leaching” is done in many locations in the USA, but, obviously not near populated areas or arable land. Cyanide is easy to destroy chemically but it is one of the deadliest poisons to life so that it must be handled very carefully.

REE extractants used in heap leaching are nowhere near as toxic as cyanides and in fact some of them can be beneficial to the soil (ammonium compounds are used that give a net increase the nitrogen content of the leached through material). Notwithstanding this purported fertilizing benefit, heap leaching of the REEs from adsorption clays is a messy business on a large scale.

It has been stated to me in China that as much as 40% of all REE production may be illegal. This means that health and safety are not considered in those (illegal) operations, and where heap leaching is used without proper safeguards the societal damage may exceed the value of the recovered material.

In the next five years the illegal mining of REEs both light and heavy will cease as China’s total restructuring of the industry takes effect. Production levels and sales levels will be licensed and monitored. A company or a trader who has unlicensed material will have that material seized and confiscated and be subject to severe punishment. Cynics claim that illegal production and trading cannot be totally stopped in China. I will bet that the 40% figure today becomes less than 10% in the future and that no illegal production of HREEs will occur in China sooner than that. Environmentalism is a source of social instability and therefore a threat to the power of central authority in China.

Although the production of HREEs by heap leaching will continue in China it will get much more expensive to do as illegal operations and inefficient or dangerous operations are shut down and costs which have been socialized and distributed by criminal elements are returned to where they belong – a charge against the cost of production.

The continuing problem and the reason that such costly production methods continue to be in use is that the HREEs are critically important to the greening of China. Unlike the USA where environmental improvement is today incremental or marginal, there is a lot left to do in China, where major environmental issues are just now impacting future planning and must be addressed if China is to on the green path that the government has promised.

The Chinese are openly worried about the availability of enough Dy and Tb for their planned development of a consumer=driven economy, based on domestic manufacturing of consumer goods. Perhaps 99% of the global demand for HREEs is for non-military civilian industrial use. The tiny amount required by the militaries of the current “great” powers is blown all out of proportion by the promoters of rare-earth mining and refining for the purpose of raising capital.

In August, 2012 the English language version of the China Daily, carried an article headlined “Firm seeks foreign partners”. The article said, in part:

“Zhang Zhong, general manager of Inner Mongolia Baotou Steel Rare Earth (Group) Hi-Tech Co Ltd [IMBSREHTCOLTD], said that with more discoveries of heavy rare earths overseas [outside of China], the company is in discussion with some foreign companies. The company’s pursuit of heavy rare earths comes as a result of its goal to develop products that use both light and heavy rare earths. The company is expected to form the North Rare Earth Group to consolidate small and medium-sized rare earth enterprises in the north and some in the south, where heavy rare earths are available [at this time in China]…”

I do not personally have any knowledge of which “foreign companies” that IMBSREHTCoLtd is speaking with, but I can tell you which ones they should be speaking with.

I have been working directly as an advisor on marketing and processing to the HREE sector of the junior-mining industry for the last 5 years; I have visited a number of the sites of these companies, and I have been monitoring the developments in REE extraction from ores and concentrates as well as separation , metal production, and alloy making, in great detail, outside of China.

Today I will give you a list of ventures that are the ones I know of that I believe are in the running to produce HREEs in this decade. Most of these companies have published target dates for meeting the various stages of the deposit credibility requirements published by Canada’s securities regulators and known as the NI 43-101 requirements. Other have met the requirements of Australia’s JORC Code. Those that have already met these requirements are on the TMR Advanced Rare-Earth Projects Index. Extensive data for thee projects of the same companies that I am going to list are available via the previous TMR Index hyperlink.

In the categories that follow I will identify the companies by geological type and geography and list them in their category in the time order in which I think they COULD come into commercial production.

All mining companies must be legally permitted to operate a mine and/or a processing company, before they can mine. These requirements make all lists such as mine speculative, because no one can predict with certainty the outcome of local and national politics in any country.

In addition just a very few of the companies on the list are vertically integrated beyond the primary production and extraction of desired metal values from ore concentrates. But this does not mean that there is no place in the market for the products of any of them that have no further downstream processing. In fact those companies that can “job” out the processing to an existing separation facility in the USA, Canada, China, Viet Nam, Thailand, India, Estonia, or France or can work with one of the contract processing facilities outside of China now in advanced planning may be in better shape than those facing the daunting challenge of engineering and building a costly and complex separation plant and refinery.

The next step after separating and refining is a bigger challenge. I personally know of just a handful rare-earth metal producing operation outside of China and one more coming into production in the next year. All of these operations are company specific, so they may be willing to buy separated and purified REE chemicals for reduction to metals, but the amounts of those they can process will be limited.

Therefore even the HREE producers coming on stream in the next two years will have little choice but to sell their products to Chinese or Japanese rare-earth metal and alloy producers. There is no other location for them to go.

Potential non-Chinese, near-term mining producers of HREEs (as chemically purified salts)
in commercial quantities
Project type Project location Owner
Ion-adsorbed clay Madagascar Tantalus Rare Earths
Hard-rock primary rare-earth deposits Sweden Tasman Metals
    Canada§Quest Rare Minerals
Matamec Explorations
Avalon Rare Metals
       USA§Ucore Rare Metals
Rare Element Resources
 Australia§Lynas Corp (Duncan)
Northern Minerals
Hastings Rare Metals
South Africa Great Western Minerals Group
Frontier Rare Earths
Rare earths as secondary byproducts Australia Alkane Resources (zirconium primary)
    Canada§Orbite Aluminae (alumina primary)
 Greenland§Greenland Minerals and Energy (uranium primary)
    Turkey§AMR Mineral Metal (magnetite prim..)
HREE in residues from tin or uranium mining Brazil Molycorp Canada (tin tailings)
Kazakhstan§Toyota Tsusho & Sumitomo (uranium tailings)
The companies above are listed geographically by their stage of production of separated purified HREEs. That does not mean that I necessarily believe that they all will ever achieve that goal on their own. However I do know from direct observation that Orbite Aluminae, for example, has already produced the first pilot-plant samples (200 grams each) of the spectrum of individual high-purity (99.99%) REEs as oxides (including scandium) as well as gallium. This was done in Germany from Canadian-produced ore concentrate, itself produced as a byproduct of their high purity (99.99%) alumina production process. I predict that Ucore Rare Metals will be the first to produce commercially separated, purified Dy from an American ore deposit, in pilot plant quantities, in 2013, and I project that Great Western Minerals Group will be in commercial production of Dy from its South African mine before the end of 2013.  

17.09.12 19:29
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631 Postings, 4624 Tage new1aroundherewenn einer der oben

genannten, dann hat matamec eindeutig die beste ausgangslage. Aufkommen,  fortschritt, sicherheit und on top mit endabnehmer gerüstet für die nächsten 5 dekaden. Dennoch ist und  bleibt stans mein geheimtip umd steckenpferd zugleich. Denn wenn dasvmit stans vor die hunde geht klafft eonmegaloch n meinem depot. All or notting ))  

18.09.12 08:41
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2628 Postings, 4681 Tage farrierHallo Leute, ich möchte Euch nur auf die

Kommentare u n t e r dem Artikel aufmerksam machen. Auch der gute Alfred war aktiv...
Ich finde die Kommentare fast interessanter als den Artikel.
LG
http://www.techmetalsresearch.com/2012/09/...ng-to-buy-them/#comments  

18.09.12 08:52
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423 Postings, 4660 Tage Kettl_a1Ferrier,.....Du liest Dich aber ganz schoen..

>.. in der Weltgeschichte rum. Ja, unser lieber Jack. Er hat halt seine Praeferenzen und vielleicht hat Er doch zu wenig Einblick in Stan's, sonst wuerde er hier schon ein paar Aktien lagern. Vielleicht hat Er es auch, hehehehe. Stan's braucht eigentlich nicht viel Werbung, denn wenn ich mich so umsehe gibt es keine Mir bekannte Miene ueber die soviel " internes" offengelegt wird, wie bei Stans. Ausser ein paar kritische Daten, die gibt's bei den anderen aber auch kaum nachzulesen.  

18.09.12 08:53
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423 Postings, 4660 Tage Kettl_a1Sorry Minen, ..

Sonst Krieg ich wieder einen Anschiss vom Deutschlehrer.  

18.09.12 08:58
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2628 Postings, 4681 Tage farrierGuten Morgen Alfred,

Information ist Alles ! ;-)
Was mich etwas wundert ist, dass er nicht einmal Fragen zu Stans beantwortet. Es sieht so aus, als hielte er es für unter seiner "Würde" darauf einzugehen.
LG  

18.09.12 09:38
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423 Postings, 4660 Tage Kettl_a1J.L..........

War das nicht derjenige ANALYST der von einem wütenden Kollegen fast eine Backpfeife abgekriegt hat??
Ich glaube dass er "Fehleinschaetzungen" aus der Vergangenheit nicht abarbeiten bzw nich gerne zugeben möchte. Vielleicht sind auch persönliche Hintergründe im Spiel.
Schönen Tag.
PS.: +14% bei Euch heute.....denke es wird mehr am Abend.

LG
Alfred  

18.09.12 10:02

388 Postings, 5481 Tage TraderwatchBackpfeife ))))

@Kettl_a1 gruß an DICH von Dienstwegen ;-)  T

 

18.09.12 10:09
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1420 Postings, 5482 Tage madoldLifton

Er lässt nichts über seine GWG kommen, übersieht dabei, dass die Streikneigung in Südafrika mit ihren starken, nach englischem Vorbild funktionierenden Unions, mit Leichtigkeit den GWG-Zeitplan verzögern oder gar in Gefahr bringen können. Auch Südafrika hat sein Länderrisiko.

Gruß, mad  

18.09.12 19:27

1420 Postings, 5482 Tage madoldBackpfeife ...

Wenn ich mich richtig erinnere, war der glatzköpfige Michael Fulp auf einer Rohstoffmesse in Vancouver. Fulp war zu dieser Zeit agressiver Gegenspieler zu Stans bzw. B. K.

http://incakolanews.blogspot.de/2012_02_05_archive.html

Gruß, mad.  

20.09.12 11:09

423 Postings, 4660 Tage Kettl_a1News....Japan Kyrghiztan bilden REE Allianz

Japan forms new rare earth metals alliance – with Kazakhstan

September 20, 2012
 
Japan is discussing with Kazakhstan an alliance to jointly develop rare earth metals, in an attempt to reduce dependence on China, according to reports in the Japanese press.
 
 
Rare earths from China are growing more expensive, increasing pressure on industries that critically need them to operate normally, like electronics and car makers.

Trade minister Yukio Edano will meet with high officials from Kazakhstan, including president Nursultan Nazarbayev. Their intentions are that an agreement would be signed in early May, with companies like Sumitomo, Japan Oil, Gas  and Metals National and Kazatoprom involved in the common extraction of rare earths.

The two countries intend to build a common plant in northern Kazakhstan. Dysprosium, a metal used in the production of engines for electric and hybrid cars, would be isolated at the facility.

Japan has partnered with the U.S. and the European Union in asking the World Trade Organization to arbitrate their conflict with China over Beijing’s restriction on exports of rare earth metals.

   

20.09.12 11:10

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