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12.03.12 20:46
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55 Postings, 4946 Tage loewenherz1002Schönen Urlaub wünsch ich dir

Aber bitte halt dich daran sonst wirkst du wieder unglaubwürdig. Grüß die Tage kumpel  

12.03.12 20:47
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1536 Postings, 5526 Tage DerBärlinerwinner..

"neid ist nämlich eine ganz miese tugend......
und von recht haben, kann man sich überhaupt nichts kaufen....grins "

neid kenne ich selbst nicht.. wenn jemand mit ehrlicher arbeit gutes geld verdient dann freue ich mich für ihn..

für recht haben kann ich mir nichts kaufen.. stimmt.. aber falls du es noch nicht bemerkt hast.. viele sehen dich hier als einen typen an der rechthaberisch ist und ein besserwisser sein will! und weil ich auch der meinung bin möchte ich dir einfach nur zeigen wie weit du davon weg bist ein winner zu sein... einfach eine kleine lebenshilfe für dich.. freunde hat noch keiner durch rechthaberei gewonnen.. feinde schon!  

12.03.12 20:56
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737 Postings, 5672 Tage Moses2010Paul Top

Wer ist dieser mensch? Ist doch Scheiß egal..schreib eh nur Müll.lach mir einen Ast ab,über seine kommentare.  

12.03.12 21:17
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6384 Postings, 5761 Tage Winner2010@hardy14....problem gut erkannt

"wenn seidenspinner schon sagt, daß er eine Woche nicht mehr schreibt,
dann sollten auch Beiträge mit einer Frage an Ihn unterlassen werden! .."

bei manchen usern hier hat man das gefühl, die wollen ja gar nicht, das TopPaul
und ich, von hier verschwinden......

seit gesten nachmittag bis vor kurzen kein posting von mir.....und was sehe ich.....
ständig fragt mich den lieben taglang user bärliner irgendwelchen krimskram.....

und in der schule habe ich halt gelernt......fragen nicht zubeantworten, ist unhöflich...grins  

12.03.12 21:35
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1536 Postings, 5526 Tage DerBärlinerwinner..

ich würde dir jetzt gerne ein "witzig" geben.. mach ich aber nicht.. du bist ja der user der seine "witzig" bewertungen in interessant umwandelt.. ariva macht es möglich..

mach ich es also so:

W I T Z I G . . .

ich komme deinem wunsch aber gerne nach und stelle dir keine fragen mehr.. wenn du mir dann im gegenzug den wunsch erfüllen würdest hier nicht mehr zu antworten.. lol..  

12.03.12 21:44
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2605 Postings, 5788 Tage Rabbit59Häh? ComDirect

Meine Wamus sind wieder entsperrt - wer hat dieses Phänomen?  

12.03.12 21:47
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6384 Postings, 5761 Tage Winner2010@derBärliner...leichteste übung

"ich komme deinem wunsch aber gerne nach und stelle dir keine fragen mehr.. wenn du mir dann im gegenzug den wunsch erfüllen würdest hier nicht mehr zu antworten.. lol..

schön,schön.....endlich hast du es auch kapiert....


bist ein richtiger blitzgneiser !!  

12.03.12 22:15
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1645 Postings, 5540 Tage hardy14GN8 Wamulaner

seit 21:47 kein Beitrag mehr.....

es wird besser!  

13.03.12 00:42
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746 Postings, 6094 Tage Stockiiiiii@Rabbit

Meine wamus sind auch wieder ungelockt....
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Nichts geschieht ohne Risiko,aber ohne Risiko geschieht auch nichts....!

13.03.12 02:00
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497 Postings, 5381 Tage tiger_001guten morgen....

guten morgen,

na jetzt kenne ich mich bald nimmer aus....
wann ist noch schnell die frist fuer die erteilung der releases abgelaufen??
irgendwie voll lustig wenn hier im grunde nie etwas eingehalten wird...
warum koennen die aktien jetzt noch gehandelt werden???

naja, so schoen langsam geht mir diese verarsche wirklich auch den sa....
entschuldigung fuer diese wortwahl, ist sonst nicht meine art!

take care aus dem osten

tiger  

13.03.12 04:18
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6721 Postings, 5691 Tage odin10deNeue Doc´s

9848   Notice of Agenda of Matters Scheduled for Hearing on March 14, 2012 at 10:30 A.M. (EST)

http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000011.pdf

9849   Certification of Counsel Regarding Transfer of Registry Funds to WMI

http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000005.pdf

9850   Order Pursuant to Section 105(a) of the Bankruptcy Code and Rule 9019 of the Federal Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure Approving Settlement Agreement with Hewlett-Packard Company and Towers Watson Pennsylvania, Inc. regarding Certain WAMU Pension Plan Overpayments

http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000006.pdf

9851   Certificate of No Objection Regarding Twenty-Fourth Monthly Application of Peter J. Solomon Company as Financial Advisor and Consulting Expert to the Official Committee of Security Holders of Washington Mutual, Inc. et al., for Allowance of Compensation for Services Rendered and Reimbursement of Expenses Incurred for the Period January 1, 2012 through January 31, 2012

http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000010.pdf

9852   Order Granting Debtors' Motion to Estimate Maximum Amount of Certain Claims for Purposes of Establishing Reserves Under the Debtors Chapter 11 Plan

http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000007.pdf

9853   Order Granting Named Plaintiffs' Application for Attorneys' Fees and Reimbursement of Expenses

http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000009.pdf  

13.03.12 06:45

5248 Postings, 5252 Tage neverenoughDIBA

POST

adobe hängt aaaaaahhhh  

13.03.12 06:48

5248 Postings, 5252 Tage neverenoughinhalt

Sammelklage (Class Action) gegen Washington Mutual Inc.
ISIN US9393221034 (WKN 893906)
Sehr geehrter neverenough,
zur oben genannten Gattung liegen uns folgende Informationen vor:
Aktionäre, die in der Zeit vom 15.04.2003 bis einschließlich 28.06.2004 Aktien der Gesellschaft kauften,
haben die Möglichkeit, an einer Sammelklage teilzunehmen. Weitere Informationen erhalten Sie im Internet
unter www.WaMu2004CommonStockLitigation.com oder direkt bei
WaMu 2004 Common Stock Litigation
c/o Rust Consulting, Inc. Claims Administrator
P.O. Box 2493
Faribault, MN 5502 1-9193
USA
Telefon 001 (877) 310-0495
Der Ausschluss aus der Class Action kann bis 04.05.2012 beantragt werden. Proof of Claims müssen bis
spätestens 02.07.2012 eingereicht werden.
Wir bitten Sie um Verständnis dafür, dass wir inhaltlich zu den weitergeleiteten Informationen keine Auskünfte
erteilen können. Die Informationen betreffen rechtlich relevante Sachverhalte, die unser Institut für
Sie als Depotkunde nicht beurteilen kann, weil damit eine Rechtsberatung verbunden wäre, die wir als Kreditinstitut
nicht leisten können und dürfen. In diesem Zusammenhang weisen wir Sie darauf hin, dass Sie
selbst für die Einleitung und Durchführung etwaiger rechtlicher Schritte verantwortlich sind. Dies kann nicht
über unser Institut erfolgen. Wir bitten Sie, sich erforderlichenfalls an einen Rechtsanwalt Ihrer Wahl zuwenden. Wir werden in dieser Angelegenheit nicht tätig.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen  

13.03.12 06:56
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6163 Postings, 6036 Tage landerInteresting article

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=73128780

Zitat dnoto:
Like a voice from the grave, none other than Lehman Brothers re-emerged from bankruptcy last week. After 1,368 days in Chapter 11, the company, of course, is a shell of its former self. Once the world's fourth-largest investment bank, with 25,000 employees, it now has fewer than 450 people sweeping up the remains. Its shares fetch about three cents each on the Pink Sheets, the marketplace for the woeful and misbegotten.

And while Lehman is no longer operating under the auspices of a bankruptcy judge, it's hardly a viable company at this point. It still has to pay creditors billions in claims, with the first $10.5 billion distribution set for April 17. In all, creditors stand to receive about $65 billion—about 20 cents on the dollar—and Lehman will be liquidating billions worth of real estate, securities and other assets for a long time to pay them off.

But deep in all the detritus lurk the seeds of a revival, of sorts. Lehman emerged from bankruptcy holding a potentially valuable thing—$55 billion in net operating losses, or NOLs. If the postbankruptcy entity that is Lehman has any future, all the losses it accumulated while in free fall will be the reason.

That's because Lehman could use the NOLs, along with whatever cash it's got, to merge with another profitable company. The NOLs would then be used to offset the income generated by the combined company and let it operate virtually tax-free for many, many years. The only limitation under tax law is that the NOLs would be good only if Lehman strikes mergers within its own industry—but, then again, “financial services” describes so many different companies, it's not as if Lehman would be starved for choices.

“The game plan would be to strike mergers over and over again to make best use of all those NOLs,” said William Brandt, an expert in restructuring failed companies and chief executive of Development Specialists Inc. He said Lehman could use its losses to acquire smaller banks or finance companies or even something sizable, like business lender CIT Group.

Ultimately, the big payday for Lehman's current investors would come when the new, highly tax-advantaged company is finally sold or—heaven forbid—taken public all over again. Mr. Brandt said this kind of rebirth is almost surely what the company's new board has in mind, and it's much easier to do this sort of delicate work away from the glare of a bankruptcy court.

“I understand it might sound strange to a lot of people,” Mr. Brandt said. “But if you're a vulture investor, Lehman is a very interesting opportunity.”

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20120311/SUB/303119973
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http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/...;frt=2&off=1

Zitat charliendud...:
""Lehman emerged from bankruptcy holding a potentially valuable thing—$55 billion in net operating losses, or NOLs.""


Amazing the amount of NOLs (or capital losses) that Lehman has calculated while Rosen was trying to stuff WMI's down to $5.6B.

Since JPM took all of WMI's mega-billions in real estate (which would be part of the losses from WMB's stock value), it sure seems like that $26B loss would be low for 2200 branches, the Seattle tower, the conference retreat, all the artwork, etc.

When we speak of what the auditors work, I would think they need to spend some time determining the exact NOLs and capital loss value.

Any chance it could be close to that $40B that someone estimated last week? Would like to see what Lehman's included in their NOLs value.
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Zitat wamuchen:
the 40B figure is about cap. loss, not NOLs. the title of the local branches has not determined to be WMI's. if we had the branches' title, the cap losses would be much larger.[it also leads to the increase of NOLs assuming obtaining similar privatecrulings from the irs.]
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Zitat charliendud...:
Wamuchen ~~ note I put "capital losses/NOLs" in my statement.

Also, when checking the tax records in my large metropolis area a couple years back, many of the Wamu bank properties were registered in WMI not WMB ... as was the Bank Tower in Seattle. No one pursued it ... so it was all taken.

Last ... believe it's been discussed that the New BOD might not choose the NOL amount from the IRS private ruling (which converts cap losses to NOLs) but rather go with the cap losses. All still to be determined.


Slight correction ... my reference to cap losses/NOLs was about the Lehman amount but that was my intent on the WAMU's as well.
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Zitat juicyjuice1...:
When do you expect we will hear from the new BOD? The Lehman article claims that Lehman securities were undervalued but then the trading had stopped.

It is very likely that the talk about WAMU being a good investment will happen when the trading actually stops.
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Zitat wamuchen:
yea. the choice of cap loss/nol has not been made. if they went with cap loss, cap gain would be the way to go as well. then i do not think operations would be the way to manage the firm. privatization would be the first thing comes up.
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Zitatende

MfG.L:)
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Alles nur meine pers. Meinung, kein Kauf- oder Verkaufs-Empfehlung!

13.03.12 06:58
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6163 Postings, 6036 Tage landergoldman moles

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/...tof=17&frt=2

ZItat much.faster:
did you ever trust tps?

this crooks had now send a representative to the litigation subkomitee.

remember, this subkomitee exists of two ec members, willingham and southard, and two cc memebers, klein and kirschner.

and one from tps: joe mcinnis.

joe from greywolf capital, and ".. Greywolf and Goldman have close ties."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/05/06/...gs-idUSN0610707520100506

so this crooks from goldman sachs have their mole at the litigation subkomitee?

or shall i write moles, with kirschner and klein?

will we ever see a suit against goldman sachs?

remember, they had a contract with wamu, to sell the company or parts of it, and in the meantime they told their customers to short wamu. a classikal breach of contract, but maybe not for the majority of the litigation subkomitee?



"...Goldman's hedge fund subsidiary has a $43 million investment in Greywolf Capital Partners II, one of Greywolf's largest hedge funds...."

isn`t this a classical case of economic dependence and therefore a case of contradiction?

maybe someone should prepare a motion to walrat?

ZItatende

MfG.L:)
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Alles nur meine pers. Meinung, kein Kauf- oder Verkaufs-Empfehlung!

13.03.12 07:07
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6163 Postings, 6036 Tage landerAn Open Letter to Jamie Dimon

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=73130986

ZItat VivaLasVegas:

ZeroHedge has a few words for JD today-


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-open-letter-jamie-dimon


An Open Letter to Jamie Dimon

By Tyler Durden
Created 03/11/2012 - 11:40

Submitted by Tyler Durden [1] on 03/11/2012 11:40 -0500


Submitted by James Koutoulas, President, Commodity Customer Coalition and CEO, Typhon Capital Management

An Open Letter to Jamie Dimon

“People fall not from their weaknesses, but from their strengths gone to excess.”- Aeschylus

Dear Mr. Dimon,

I used to be one of your biggest fans. Back when I was 17 years old working at a Salomon Smith Barney branch in Ft. Lauderdale, you were fired from Citigroup when everyone had you pegged as the heir to Sandy Weill’s burgeoning empire. Everyone at the branch was shocked, as we all knew you by reputation as a brilliant CEO-in-the-making, and frankly, most of us were disappointed as we genuinely were all looking forward to working under your leadership one day.

While your ousting was unexpected, you recovered quickly, and perhaps it helped motivate you to accomplish great things in the financial industry. You came to the CEO post at Bank One, then engineered its acquisition by JPMorgan Chase and took the CEO prize for yourself. All the while, Citi floundered, and you led JPMorgan Chase to become the premier American bank. Under your stewardship, Chase eschewed most of the sub-prime crisis and snapped up some of the choicest prizes in the ensuing crisis, namely Bear Stearns and Washington Mutual. Well done, sir.

Personally, I was proud to be a JPMorgan customer and proudly listed in our offering documents that our firm’s operational capital was safely held with your institution. I enjoyed great relationships with both your hedge fund/commercial banking division and your newly resurgent futures prime brokerage group. We were even on good terms with your private bank.

Then, the MF Global bankruptcy happened. And, I became aware of your bank’s involvement with the firm’s collapse. How the New York Times reports that JPMorgan received 325M in segregated customer funds [11]despite the fact that JPMorgan Chase was a primary custodian for them. Then, JPMorgan Chase reportedly failed to return the funds when MF Global reported that they erroneously transferred customer assets and went a step further into “CYA” mode by requesting a comfort letter indicating that JPMorgan Chase had not received customer funds. JPMorgan Chase reportedly did not receive this letter, yet still, it kept customers’ property.

Through my role as the co-founder of the Commodity Customer Coalition and pro bono counsel for some 8,000+ customers whose property it looks like your institution may be holding without their consent, I have loudly advocated for JPMorgan Chase to return this property. In response to this, rather than doing the right thing, you closed all of my personal and corporate bank accounts and my personal credit card [12]. I have been told by multiple members of the media that JPMorgan Chase has called them and stated that if their media outlet has me on television again, that JPMorgan Chase will pull their advertising from the offending network.

These bully tactics have only strengthened my resolve to protect my clients whom you have knowingly wronged and continue to wrong by improperly holding their property. It has made me delve deeper into what I have found is a pattern of such malicious conduct across JPMorgan Chase’s business groups. JPMorgan Chase bribed officials in Jefferson County, Alabama [13], one of the poorest counties in the United States, to enter into a disastrous derivative transaction that bankrupted the county and caused an increase of 400% in sewage prices, forcing these poor people to have to choose between food and clean water. JPMorgan Chase designed an overdraft processing system [14]that intentionally prioritized higher dollar transactions so that as many transactions as possible would overdraft, again generating usurious-like fees on the bank of those who can ill afford it. Let’s not forget about robo-signing [15], forging foreclosure documents [16], or, getting back to the futures world, failing to properly segregate customer funds [17].

Mr. Dimon, why do you impugn your character and reputation by allowing your firm to engage in these immoral activities? Sure, the regulators have failed to assess you any meaningful punishments that would deter you from this conduct on a strict, short-term dollars and cents analysis. Every penny of earnings counts, I get it. But, sir, you do not strike me as someone who is trying to pump your company’s stock price for a quarter or two. You are the face of JPMorgan Chase and, I would assume, you plan on being there for a while. Why intentionally destroy any and all goodwill your firm has to make additional revenue that is mostly insignificant in the short-term and, quite possibly, deleterious in the long-term? The only reason I can think of is: because you can. And, that, sir is where hubris starts.

Lately, it seems you’ve come to relish the role of antagonist, bully, and even, villain. You’ve gone on rants about tax rates, how gosh darn profitable you are going to make JPMorgan Chase, and even gone so far as to call out journalists for their share of salaries versus the revenue of news organizations. Put plainly, the confidence that enabled you to build JPMorgan Chase has now become arrogance. Mr. Dimon, I happen to have been a classics scholar and have read this story many times before. It never ends well.

While you have led your firm to a dominant position in the banking industry and record profits of late, you haven’t done it alone. You’ve had the benefit of taxpayer funds, whether you needed them or not (as you claim). You’ve had extremely favorable regulation and public policy that for years has prioritized re-capitalizing banks over the rights of Main Street Americans to be able to bear the fruit of their labor. Yet, you have begun to act like a megalomaniac, drunk on his own power ala Caligula, and attribute 100% of your success to your personal superlatives. People are starting to notice. While Occupy Wall Street has failed to articulate any clear message or goals, they have tapped into a rage in this country that is real and palpable. You have alienated many of your peers on Wall Street and in the hedge fund industry (yes, you have peers). And, now, you have alienated many members of the media that have the voices to spread the word of the ill conduct which your firm has repeatedly engaged in.

In the Niccomedean Ethics, Aristotle described the worst kind of man as the “Incontinent Man,” namely he who knows what he does is wrong and does it anyway. I believe somewhere deep down, you realize that a lot of what you and the bank that you lead do has become increasingly wrong. Why continue to go on like that? You’re at the pinnacle of wealth and power, and continuing to do wrong will not make you meaningfully richer or more powerful. It can only serve to hurt you. “For what will it profit a main if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?”

Based on all of your accomplishments, you may think you’re beyond reproach, that you will never have your comeuppance. But, there’s a reason that during Triumphs in Ancient Rome, a slave stood behind the Emperor whispering “all glory is fleeting” in his ear. Because, it is. And, one day, something bad will happen to JPMorgan Chase. I don’t know if it will be a blow-up of the bank’s some $500 Billion in re-hypothecation exposure or a squeeze on its rumored massive short silver position. Or, if the United States will again see a regulator that believes in, and enforces, stiff punishment for misconduct by banks. But, we will all find out should you continue down the path you are on.

So, rather than continuing to corrupt your soul to harm others for negligible gain to yourself, choose a different path. Use your intelligence and your leadership abilities and your charisma to do the right thing, and set an example for the rest of the financial industry by showing that it is better for all society, JPMorgan Chase and Jamie Dimon included, to not crush those weaker or poorer than you by exacting every last cent from them just because you can. Rein in your malicious activities and focus on the legitimate ones. Be just a little humble -- and remove the target you’ve placed on your own back.

Perhaps, you can start by voluntarily returning the returning all the excess overdraft fees JPMorgan Chase overcharged average Americans through mal intent. While you’re at it, give back the hard-earned property of the farmers, ranchers, retirees, and others who were MF Global clients before I come take it back in court. JPMorgan Chase can borrow at 0% interest from the Fed. Do you realllly need an illicit free loan borne on the backs of farmers?

Whether you realize it or not, you’re at a crossroads. And, I promise you, one Greek to another, I will ardently help you to come to the end of whichever path you choose.

James L. Koutoulas, Esq.
President, Commodity Customer Coalition
CEO, Typhon Capital Management
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EVERYONE EMAIL THAT LETTER TO THE MASS MEDIA.
I know we've passed around huge email lists before.
Everyone pick a handful of sources and send them this letter.

The more people who do it, the better chance we have.

Cheers!
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Zitat fsshon:
Someone needs to send this guy all the information on Project West. The discovery file from Quinn should do it. It is about as obvious as it gets...

Excellent Letter. I think I pinned one to the Judge a couple of years ago asking her to "let the little guy win for once." We didn't get the Shareholders meeting because our EC felt it was not a good idea to pursue, but we did get a sizeable chunk of the NEWCO. If JPM/FDIC and Weil had their way we would have not even gotten Dog...(you know what)...

The idea that the Jamie Dimon (Leopard) is going to change his spots because this guy is asking him to, is not going to happen. He will only try to change when the market forces him to. That will only happen when "the too big to fail protections" are lifted. Then JPMC will be vulnerable and Market Forces will react. The Silver Short is JPM's undoing, it is only a matter of time before it squeezes JD's (you know whats)!
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Zitat drrugby:
FSH, Interesting story developing here..

JPM is now trying to sell a metals company it owns and fed is looking to force Banks to sell its contracts in metals.

Sooner or later the WAMU Deal will be finalized.

And the players can wash their hands of the largest bank robbery in history.

GLTA..

GO WAMUQ Go..

DrR..
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Zitatende

MfG.L:)
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13.03.12 07:14
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146 Postings, 5416 Tage SantaAna@Rabbit59

Meine Shares bei der Comdirect sind auch wieder entsperrt. Der Verkaufsbutton ist wieder vorhanden. Sehr interessant, was hat das wohl zu bedeuten?  

13.03.12 07:27
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859 Postings, 5509 Tage KohleKiesSanta Ana/ Rabbit

Gehen aber nicht zu verkaufen!

Ist mir auch gestern aufgefallen und habe einen Verkaufsversuch durchgeführt.

kk  

13.03.12 08:05
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41 Postings, 5161 Tage oso1Aktien entsperrt

Meine bei der DB auch.
..seltsam  

13.03.12 08:10
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1197 Postings, 5778 Tage Motobiker84Bei Diba

alles beim alten, Aktien gesperrt!

Wann sollte den nun konkret der Umtausch in die NewCo stattfinden? Diese Woche doch oder nicht?

 

13.03.12 08:22
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1096 Postings, 5414 Tage AbkassiererComdirect

Meine sind auch entsperrt ,wos isn jetz los?!  

13.03.12 08:23
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181 Postings, 4947 Tage Kerstin1978Zu den entsperrten Aktien

Ihr werdet Euch noch wundern, wie es hier weitergeht. Von wegen Release erteilt und schlafen legen.

Warum werden wohl so viele Stücke seit Tagen auf dem niedirgen Niveau gesammelt, obwohl die Shortquoten unverändert hoch bleiben.....?!






Liebe Grüsse
Kerstin  

13.03.12 08:29
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1197 Postings, 5778 Tage Motobiker84@Kerstin

jetzt verbreite hier doch keine falsche Panik........das wird sich schon klären warum bei manchen Depots der Button wieder aufleuchtet........ bei mir ist alles beim alten, und auch die Betroffenen berichten ja schon das ein Verkauf weiterhin nicht möglich ist...

 

13.03.12 08:39
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22261 Postings, 5436 Tage The_Hopeentsperrt, Mumpiz

Mach mal Verkaufsorder bis zur Tan- Eingabe, und....?

Nix nee?

Glückauf  

13.03.12 08:40
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6012 Postings, 5564 Tage paketixist immer so bei WAMU

erstens kommt es anders ... und zweitens als man denkt
*klonk*
/paketix  

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