Rakuten wesentlich besser als Rocket

Q. About the MNO business, it was mentioned that the 600 billion yen capital investment would be enough for nationwide coverage and that there are many merits for being a latecomer. Could you tell us in a bit more detail about the background to this figure and how you came to the conclusion that it will be enough?

A. (Yamada)
Looking at the previous frequency band allocation applications by eAccess and UQ, you can see that the two companies built a nationwide network with an investment of around 400 to 500 billion yen. Taking these examples into account, we believe that it will be possible to build a nationwide network with an investment of 600 billion yen. This figure was calculated based on estimates from vendors. Compared to the existing three carriers, we don’t need to invest in legacy technologies such as 3G, so the equipment can be simple. We have given a target of 15 million subscribers in a few years, but we don’t need to offer the same amount of capacity as the existing carriers, which have tens of millions of users. We also don’t need to update old equipment. In addition, the existing carriers have multiple frequencies, so in this way we can make the system simple. We are planning for full nationwide coverage, but rather than going suddenly for 99% coverage with our own equipment, we plan to borrow the network of the existing carriers for the first few years as we raise coverage up to near 100%. From this perspective, we believe the 600 billion yen figure for investment is sufficient.

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mehr kann man da nicht mehr sagen.
Das mit dem "verbilligen" durch Nachkäufe kann man machen, aber wenn sich der Trend ungebrochen fortsetzt sieht das Prozentual nur kurzfristig besser aus im Depot.
Mit jedem weiteren Kursrutsch verliert sich das und in absoluten Zahlen wächst das Minus nicht nur, es nimmt dann irgendwann ein Ausmaß an was es vielen Anlegern zusätzlich schwer macht ein Investment grundsätzlich zu überdenken und die wichtige Regel zu befolgen konsequent Verluste zu begrenzen.
Und bei Rakuten ist der Trend eindeutig negativ, eine Bodenbildung ist Stand jetzt nicht abzusehen.  

Pinterest erst mit 1,5 Milliarden US-Dollar bewertet.

Pinterest Gets $100M In Funding From Japan’s Rakuten, Now Valued at $1.5 Billion
Greg Finn on May 17, 2012 at 7:27 am

The Japansese e-commerce company, Rakuten, will invest “upwards of $50 million in a $100 million round.”  This total investment round will place the valuation of Pinterest at $1.5 billion dollars.

https://marketingland.com/...-rakuten-now-valued-at-1-5-billion-12209
 

unverständlich meinen Beitrag 1574 als Unterstellung gelöscht. Zur Erinnerung: Dort habe ich nachgewiesen, dass der user Libuda einen englischsprachigen Text falsch interpretiert hat, indem er meint zum Bau einer Mobilfunkarchitektur müsse man keine Kabel verlegen. Diese Interpretation habe ich als fehlerhaft gepostet, da man für die Mobilfunkmasten eben doch Versorgungsleitungen legen muss. Deshalb habe ich jetzt wie von ith gefordert den fehlerhaften Beitrag 1572 gemeldet.  

um die Frage, ob Kabelnetze beim Aufbau eines Mobilfunknetzes eine zentrale Bedeutung haben.  

und des frühen Einstieg schätze ich den Wert der Pinterest-Beteiligung von Rakuten auf 800 Millionen bis 1,2 Milliarden US-Dollar.

"In its most recent funding round, the company raised $150 million in venture capital funding, increasing its total valuation to $12.3 billion and bringing its total funding to over $1 billion. Pinterest is forecasting over $500 million in ad revenue this year, according to Recode . This would represent growth of 67% from $300 million in 2016."

https://www.nasdaq.com/article/...ring-up-for-an-ipo-in-2018-cm889230

 

(Mikitani)
Think of it as the difference between a regular airline and an LCC. Generally, LCCs have only one type of aircraft, which makes extremely efficient operations possible. By keeping the plans and network structure simple, we can lower the amount of investment required. We are not the first in the world to do something like this. In India and the UK, there are examples of carriers carrying out a similar strategy to us. Simple is the keyword.
 

auch fast ohne Marketing Aufwand an die fast 100 Millionen Rakuten-Kunden verkaufen - vor allem im Rahmen des existierenden Eco-Systems.  

du solltest nochmal deinen Beitrag 1572 lesen, vielleicht hast du ja vergessen, was du geschrieben hast.
Übrigens die 6 ist gefallen - kein Wendepunkt in Sicht.  

Speaking to CNBC's Akiko Fujita on Wednesday, Rakuten CEO Hiroshi Mikitani said the mobile business is a "very, very important" platform for services from e-commerce to content.
That's why there's a trend of mergers between content and networks in deals such as Verizon buying Yahoo, Mikitani said.

"In the future, we're going to see the conversion of network platforms and content and transactions."

As for Rakuten's ambitions in Japan's crowded telecommunications space, Mikitani said lower capital costs from new technologies and his company's proven track record in other businesses make him optimistic.

At present, Rakuten sees about $120 billion in global transactions, and Mikitani said the goal is not just to have a shopping platform.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/...rakuten-aims-for-an-ecosystem.html
 

Key Statistics of Rakuten
P/E Ratio 9.96
Price to Book Ratio 1.5781
Price to Sales Ratio 1.1692
https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/4755:JP
 

Libuda,

Ist es ein ähnlicher Grund wie damals bei Local.com wo du auch immer nachgekauft hast nach deiner Aussage oder wie schätzt du diese Situation hier im Vergleich zu dem Wert ein?

 

bei dem ich falsch lag und das Risiko groß war,

Das ist bei Rakuten aufgrund seiner Größe und seiner Bilanz anders.  

man muss aber emotional bereit sein, seine Fehler rechtzeitig zu erkennen und dann konsequent zu handeln. Das erkenne ich bei Libuda nicht. Er beharrt auf die Richtigkeit seines Invests (oder Nichtinvests). Beides kostet Performance und vernichtet Kapital.
An der Börse kommt es nicht auf Recht haben an, sondern zum richtigen Zeitpunkt in den richtigen Aktien investiert zu sein. Rechne dir einfach mal aus, wieviel ein Invest in zB. Hypoport ab deiner Threadpräsenz eingebracht hätte, oder wieviel Verlust du weniger hättest mit dem Einstieg in Rakuten zu warten, bis eine Trendumkehr stattgefunden hat.  

"With the inclusion of the telecommunications business, the Walmart partnership, and the acquisition of Asahi's insurance business, the company is seeking to build out a full lineup of services, he said.

Using China's Tencent as an example of a company "going everywhere" in consumer services, Mikitani said his firm is attempting to follow a similar trajectory. Partnerships such as the one with Walmart, he said, are likely to become more common in the future.

Quelle: siehe 1585  

Der bekannte VoIP-Dienst jetzt auch für den Desktop

https://viber.de.uptodown.com/windows
 

With so much going on, our different teams had a lot on their plate coming up with new stickers, answering users’ questions, and developing new innovative features we thought you’d love. Since we all spend the majority of our time within a messaging app, one of our goals for 2017 was to expand the services we provide so that you wouldn’t have to exit the app in order to find a GIF or video you’d like to send. That’s where our Chat Extensions came into the picture, becoming a one-stop-shop for anyone who doesn’t want to leave their chat in order to send a message to their friends. First introduced exactly one year ago, Chat Extensions has since expanded to include Yelp, Ticketmaster, Tunemoji, YouTube, Vice and many others.

https://www.viber.com/blog/2018-01-22/vibers-2017-summary/

 

Gamee teams up with Viber to bring social gaming to 1 billion users
March 19th, 2018 - 10:45am
By Iain Harris, Staff Writer

Social gaming platform Gamee has teamed up with Tokyo-based commerce company Rakuten to launch a chat extension with over 70 games on their social app Viber.
Gamee’s chat extension will allow Viber users to jump into their games while in conversations with friends.

According to a report by ComScore MobiLens, the majority of mobile users do not download any new apps over the course of an average month, but do spend more time in apps they own.
“As one of the biggest messaging apps with 1 billion users, we are confident that this new alignment will make our gaming experience even more accessible to gamers of all levels across the globe.”

http://www.pocketgamer.biz/asia/news/67770/...ing-to-1-billion-users/
 

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TYO: 4755 - 12. Apr., 15:15 GMT+9
794 JPY Price decrease 6 (- 0,81 %)

794 JPY = 6,0050 EUR  

right, zum Glück noch nicht eingestiegen.... und vielleicht auch nimmer mehr?....  

machts ordentlich...
BÄTSCHI  

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Rakuten to Utilize Kyushu Electric Power Infrastructure for MNO Base Stations

Tokyo, April 12, 2018 – Rakuten, Inc. today announced that it has decided to utilize the transmission towers and other infrastructure of Kyushu Electric Power Co., Inc. in establishing a network of base stations for its Mobile Network Operator (MNO) business.

On April 9, 2018, Rakuten received approval from Japan’s Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications for its 4th generation mobile communications system (4G) special base station deployment plan and is now further accelerating preparations for the launch of its MNO service.
Based on the approval, the company plans to make use of Kyushu Electric Power’s transmission towers and other infrastructure in and around Japan’s Kyushu region for its base station locations
.
https://global.rakuten.com/corp/news/press/2018/0412_01.html
 

Rakuten and BIC CAMERA Collaborate to Launch New Consumer Electronics Service
- “Rakuten BIC” online shopping site breaks down the barriers between online and offline retail to provide highly convenient service -

Tokyo, April 11, 2018 –Rakuten, Inc. and BIC CAMERA INC. today announced the launch of new joint services in the consumer electronics sector and the opening of “Rakuten BIC,” a new consumer electronics e-commerce site that is part of Rakuten Ichiba.

Rakuten BIC, operated by Rakuten and BIC CAMERA, will leverage the strengths of the two companies to offer a wide range of products at competitive prices, in addition to providing highly convenient services, including same-day shipping. By breaking down barriers to combine the advantages of online and offline retail, the site will be able to meet the increasingly diverse needs of its customers.

https://global.rakuten.com/corp/news/press/2018/0411_01.html
 

Latest Rakuten-led funding values Lyft at $2.5 billion

MARCH 12, 2015 / 7:20 AM

(Reuters) - Ride-sharing service Lyft said it raised an additional $530 million in a funding round led by Japanese online retailer Rakuten Inc, giving the Uber rival a valuation of $2.5 billion and adding momentum to its expansion plans.

Rakuten said it is investing $300 million for an 11.9 percent stake in San Francisco-based Lyft - its first investment in a ride-hailing firm.