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13.03.12 16:00
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574 Postings, 5174 Tage pepiat16scherz

leute was für eine gelungene story. und es glauben auch noch welche.

mfg  

13.03.12 16:05
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2742 Postings, 5545 Tage wamufan-the-greatSchwarzwälders

dummes Posting ist eine Ente!

Guter Tipp bei Texten ohne Quellenangaben: Einfach mal 2-3 Sätze rauskopieren und in Google einfügen, auf Suchen klicken und wenn, wie hier nur ariva als Quelle vorkommt dann ist man schon schlauer ;)

Schwarzwälder ist für mich ein Psychopath der nichts besseres zu tun hat, als solchen Mist zu verfassen! Wirklich komisch, vorallem für die, die ihr Vermögen bei diesem Bankraub verloren haben!So...

LG Wamufan  

13.03.12 16:12

10246 Postings, 5799 Tage Astragalaxiadu hast dich wieder einmal

super selbstinszeniert, lieber schwarzwald...brauchst du das?!

allerdings...mit verlaub...sehr dilettantisch formuliert..

waere plus noch hier...haette sie auf deine mittlerweile zweite irrefuehrende falschmeldung...wohl schon laengst reagiert...und dich fuer unbestimmte zeit aus diesem...mittlerweile leider nicht mehr ernstzunehmendem wamu-thread...entfernt...

ich kann hier mittlerweile nur noch mit dem kopf schuetteln...

 

13.03.12 16:19

8 Postings, 4898 Tage morris1981brian rosen

lebt also mit der schwester seiner witwe zusammen! *hä*
was soll denn "die schwester seiner witwe" witwe sein???  

13.03.12 16:19

55 Postings, 4948 Tage loewenherz1002Stimme Astra zu

Nur Möchtegern selbsternannte selbstdarsteller hier. Leider, so kann man etwas schönes erhabenes für uns kleinen dagewesenes zerstören. Das Problem ist die sogenannte eigentlich mit dazu gehören und sich selber ins Fleisch schneiden. Traurig.  

13.03.12 16:21
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5360 Postings, 4974 Tage schladi1@ alle

Hi,

die Story war wirklich gut, habe dies bis zum letzten Absatz fast auch geglaubt, das mit:

" Ich lebe seit einiger Zeit mit der Schwester meiner Witwe, -eine sehr christliche Frau- zusammen und die hat mich auf diesen Gedanken gebracht.
Die Redaktion meint: Besser spät geläutert als nie" !

Da ist mir erst aufgefallen, dass ich verarscht wurde und ich mußte über mich lachen, denn
das aus Rosen ein Paulus wurde, war des guten zuviel. Trotzdem gut gelacht!
Mir wäre ein gepaulster Rosen natürlich sehr recht.
Gruß an alle die glauben und mehr wissen als ich!
Schladi1  

13.03.12 16:25

10246 Postings, 5799 Tage Astragalaxiamittlerweile ist der parallel thread

bei wo....interessanter zu lesen...als der muell hier bei ariva...

waer ich nicht zu faul...

dass ich das hier mal schreiben wuerde, haette ich vor ein paar mon auch nicht gedacht....

die informativen, guten schreiber sind zu 99 % weg...der mod ist verschwunden...

...resultat...dies hier...

wenns nicht so traurig waer...

 

13.03.12 16:32

654 Postings, 5623 Tage Goldesel2010hab ich gelesen

Waren so 9-10 Stück, oder ?
Hat sich jemand mal solomons Rechnung genauer angesehen ?  

13.03.12 16:38

1939 Postings, 5658 Tage PolytourAstra Kennst Du das Wort "Ironie"?

...besser als der andere Mist!  

13.03.12 16:54

2605 Postings, 5790 Tage Rabbit59Schwester seiner Witwe?

Ist die Schwägerin - Schwarzwälder du solltest bei einem Börsenjournal arbeiten, die schreiben auch nur Enten, das letzte mal bin ich wirklich drauf reingefallen...gut gemacht..  

13.03.12 17:00
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2605 Postings, 5790 Tage Rabbit59Enten wie gestern bei Q-Cells

Q-Cells hat Großauftrag in Griechenland - hey das stinkt doch schon nach "Ente" - die haben doch keine Kohle da unten ... der Kurs sprang um die 25% hoch - heute wieder 9% minus - tja ein paar schlaue haben noch mal schnell ein Paar "Kühe" zu höheren Preisen auf den Markt geworfen. In den nächsten Tagen ist der Kurs wieder auf altem Stand. Ein Fall für die verschnarchte Börsenaufsicht - aber sie schnarcht weiter...und schon wieder wurden Leute durch Agenturmeldungen geprellt...  

13.03.12 17:55
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13.03.12 18:01
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6164 Postings, 6038 Tage landerCourt Documents 9854 - 9857

9854
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000008.pdf

Certificate of No Objection re: Broadbill Investment Corp.'s Application for Payment of Professional Fees and Expenses Incurred as LTW Class Representative
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9855
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000014.pdf

Affidavit of Service of Carlos I. Lara re: Thirty-Sixth Monthly Application of Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP, as Attorneys for the Debtors, for Allowance of Compensation for Professional Services Rendered and for Reimbursement of Actual and Necessary Expenses Incurred from November 1, 2011 Through November 30, 2011
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9856
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000015.pdf

Affidavit of Service of Carlos I. Lara re: Notice of Rejection of Executory Contracts
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9857
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000012.pdf

Affidavit of Service of Carlos I. Lara re: Thirty-Third Monthly Application of Miller & Chevalier Chartered for Allowance of Compensation for Services Rendered and Reimbursement of Expenses as Special Tax Counsel to the Debtors and Debtors in Possession for the Period from January 1-31, 2012

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13.03.12 18:03
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6164 Postings, 6038 Tage landerCourt Documents 9858 - 9861

9858
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000013.pdf

Affidavit of Service of Carlos I. Lara re: (i) Certification of Counsel Concerning Stipulation Regarding Plan Reserve for Certain Disputed Director and Officer Subordinated Indemnification Claims Subject to Asserted Rights of Subrogation and (ii) Certification of Counsel Regarding Debtors' Seventieth Omnibus (Substantive) Objection to Claims
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9859
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000016.pdf

Affidavit of Service of Carlos I. Lara re: (i) Order Approving Stipulation Regarding Plan Reserve for Certain Disputed Director and Officer Subordinated Indemnification Claims Subject to Asserted Rights of Subrogation and (ii) Notice of Ninth Interim Fee Application Request of Shearman & Sterling LLP for the Period from June 1, 2011 Through January 31, 2012
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9860
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120312000000000017.pdf

Affidavit of Service of Carlos I. Lara re: Notice of Ninth Interim Fee Application Request of Shearman & Sterling LLP for the Period from June 1, 2011 Through January 31, 2012
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9861
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120313000000000001.pdf

Order Directing Transfer of Registry Funds to WMI
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13.03.12 18:09
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6164 Postings, 6038 Tage landerabandon $14,5 bio?

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/...tof=11&frt=2

ZItat much.faster:
wmi has at the moment about 6300 mio nols. about 5500 from preseizure and seizue, and about 800 mio from bancrupcy proceedings (mostly lawyers fees, but also nols from the wmi nivestment and wimrick)

this aggregate we get, if we add the 26000 mio of the wmb loss (capital loss) and the loss of the capital transfers (from wmi to wmb) of 6500, who occured in the time between 1/1/2008 and the seizure. that makes 32500 mio. this amount was declared by the irs in a private letter ruling to be ordinary loss aka nols.

now wmi used 12500 mio of this amount to get the taxrefunds, thats leave 20000 mio.

why is there a difference between the 20000 mio we get, and rosens 5500 mio?

because the irs doesn`t like double countings. and wmb aka fdic/jpm has the 14500 mio (numbers from rosen, por) they made as nols in 2008 before the seizure. and because the fdic/jpm has this nols, wmi decided to reduce the amount of 20000 mio by 14500, dollar for dollar the wmb nols. so wmi cann`t use them. but wmb aka fdic/jpm could, if they get the wmb shares.

but .....


BUT, if wmi do not abandon the wmb shares, they must not reduce the 20000 mio nols by the 14500 mio wmb nols, fdic/jpm holds at the moment.

remember, fdic/jpm cann`t use the nols, if they do not have the wmb shares.

so, if wmi doesn`t abandon the wmb shares to fdic/jpm, they could have 14500 mio more nols.

and 14500 mio are at a taxrate of 35% about 5075 mio cash.

if wmi abandons the wmb shares to fdic/jpm, they will loose 5000 mio (5 bio) in cash value.

thats half of the parity of the preferreds, and 2,4 dollar for the commons.

and if i`m right, neither in the por nor in the gsa there is a paragraph, where the abandonment of the wmb shares is writen in.

correct me, if i`m wrong, but if wmi abandons the wmb shares, they (kosturos and rosen) are open to fraudsuits. and if we inform the ec and their lawyers (maybe someone could do it, who`s a native english speaker) they must react to avoid this fraud.
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Zitat altini_k1:
Much I really think you should Contact Sargent or Willingham or try to make a contact to Observer through a email and explain everything necesary to them.I really think that you have a case but the problem is that you need to be heard and the only way to do is to contact the rightpersons.I still think that the plans are in the table and they will change nothing but I think is worth the Shot my friend.So I go for it if I were you.
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13.03.12 18:10

201 Postings, 6176 Tage hobbyAktionärIch hätte...

diesem neuen Rosen in die Eier getreten..denn jetzt ist alles entschieden nach 4 Jahren warten.. auch wenn wir ausgenommen wurden von JPM, ich glaube an eine neue Wamu Zukunft. Hoffentlich sitzen da kluge Köpfe, die noch viel Kapital aus der Wamu holen können.  

13.03.12 18:59
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648 Postings, 5189 Tage Trader 84LOL

"die informativen guten Schreiber sind weg...der mod verschwunden"....

bekommt ihr das eigentlich nicht im Kopp rein???? Wir wurden verarscht! Jetzt bleiben wir erstmal für eine lange Zeit auf dieses Klopapier sitzen, bevor es für ganz wertlos erklärt wird!

 

13.03.12 19:09
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1365 Postings, 6378 Tage chiara lunaAriva Moderatoren

raurunter (Pusher?) gehört nicht in dieses Wamu Forum. Auch nicht in andere Foren. Warum reagiert man nicht spontan gegen solche Pusher. Es ist immer wieder das gleiche Problem. Sollen sich alle dem Push anschliessen, oder wie denkt sich Ariva das?
Gemeldet hab ich es, aber keine Reaktion.
Sorry, WAMU hat eine eigene Geschichte mit viel Emotionen. Deswegen brauchen wir Basher und Pusher nicht.
ICH BIN IM WAMU FORUM UND NUR MIT WAMU "VERWANDTEN". Entschuldigung.
MfG
Chiara Luna  

13.03.12 19:21

1637 Postings, 5430 Tage apple888chlara wen meinst denn

13.03.12 19:34

1637 Postings, 5430 Tage apple888sorry raurunter überlesen

13.03.12 19:40

2394 Postings, 5420 Tage olenullnull7Achtung

Manipulation
Also bei einem Kauf von ca. 1.5 Mio Stück zu einem Kurs zwischen 0,02 und 0,024 und einen Brief von 0,022 kann rein rechnerisch keine Kursminus von knapp 10% herauskommen.
Wobei ja auch noch Stückzahl Geld ca. doppelt so hoch wie Brief liegt.

Jetzt höre ich gleich wieder Verschwörungstheorie.

Legal, Illegal, Sch….egal. Hauptsache ich mach hier Gewinn.
Meine Meinung.  

13.03.12 19:42
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6164 Postings, 6038 Tage landeraus dem I HUb

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=73177358

Zitat aladin61:
Form 8-K for WASHINGTON MUTUAL, INC


12-Mar-2012

Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement, Financial Statements and Exhib



Item 1.01 Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement.
On March 6, 2012, Washington Mutual, Inc. (the "Company") and the Company's wholly-owned subsidiary, WMI Investment Corp. ("Investment" and collectively with the Company, the "Debtors"), entered into a liquidating trust agreement with William C. Kosturos, as the liquidating trustee (the "Liquidating Trustee"), and CSC Trust Company of Delaware, as the Delaware resident trustee (the "Agreement"). As previously disclosed, William C. Kosturos is also the Chief Restructuring Officer of the Company, and is the President & Chief Operating Officer of Investment. A copy of the Agreement is attached hereto as Exhibit 10.1 and is incorporated herein by reference.

Summary of the Agreement

The following is a summary of the material terms of the Agreement, as executed by the Debtors, and is not a complete description of the Agreement. Capitalized terms used but not defined herein have the meanings ascribed to them in the Debtors' Seventh Amended Joint Plan of Affiliated Debtors Pursuant to Chapter 11 of the United States Bankruptcy Code (the "Plan"). The Agreement provides for the creation of a liquidating trust (the "WMI Liquidating Trust") that will have an initial term of three years, subject to extension for up to an additional three years (subject to certain limited exceptions) with the approval of the United States Bankruptcy Court for the District of Delaware. On or shortly after the effective date of the Plan (the "Effective Date"), certain of the Debtors' assets, as further described below (the "Liquidating Trust Assets"), will be transferred to the WMI Liquidating Trust pursuant to the Plan for the benefit of certain holders of claims against, or equity interests in, the Debtors. Such claim and equity interest holders (the "Liquidating Trust Beneficiaries") will be issued beneficial interests in the WMI Liquidating Trust (each such interest, a "Liquidating Trust Interest") in exchange for their claims against, or equity interests in, the Debtors. The Agreement provides that the Liquidating Trust Interests are not transferable except by will, intestate succession or operation of law. Pursuant to the Agreement, the Liquidating Trustee will be responsible for liquidating, converting to cash and distributing the Liquidating Trust Assets to the Liquidating Trust Beneficiaries in accordance with the terms of the Agreement. The WMI Liquidating Trust will not continue, nor engage in at any time, the conduct of any trade or business other than the liquidation and distribution of the Liquidating Trust Assets, and is intended to qualify as a "liquidating trust" for federal income tax purposes.

The proceeds that are obtained from the liquidation of the Liquidating Trust Assets will be distributed to the Liquidating Trust Beneficiaries in accordance with the distribution procedures and priorities set forth in the Agreement. These distribution procedures include a reserve mechanism to allow for the resolution of claims that are disputed, in whole or in part, as of the Effective Date and the issuance of Liquidating Trust Interests and Runoff Notes in respect thereof if and when such claims are allowed. The Agreement also provides for the establishment of a trust advisory board (the "Trust Advisory Board"), which will be responsible for approving certain decisions of the Liquidating Trustee and will be initially comprised of ten (10) members, three
(3) of whom will be selected by the Creditors' Committee, four (4) of whom will be selected by the Equity Committee, with one (1) such member (together with any successors, the "TPS Member") to be named by the TPS Funds, one (1) of whom will be selected by the Creditors' Committee and approved by the Equity Committee, one (1) of whom will be selected by Tricadia Capital Management, LLC, and one
(1) ex officio member who will be selected by Holdco Advisors, L.P. with limited member rights consisting solely of the right of observation and the review of materials provided to the Trust Advisory Board and, subject to the agreement of the other members of the Trust Advisory Board, a right of participation in discussions of the Trust Advisory Board but with no right to vote.

The Trust Agreement also provides for the establishment of a subcommittee of the Trust Advisory Board (the "Litigation Subcommittee") which will oversee the prosecution of certain claims and the defense of Junior Disputed Claims. The Litigation Subcommittee will be initially comprised of five (5) members, two (2) of whom will be selected from the Trust Advisory Board by the Creditors' Committee, two (2) of whom will be selected from the Trust Advisory Board by the Equity Committee, and one (1) member who will be the TPS Member.

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/120312/dimeq.pk8-k.html
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Zitat clawmann:
Here is the link to the exhibit (the agreement).

http://google.brand.edgar-online.com/....aspx%253fcompanyid%253d10353

Lots of interesting and clarifying detail in here. I did not know that $60 million was allocated to fund the costs of running the liquidating trust ($20 mil of that is for the litigation fund).

That's quite a bit of money that has been made available to run that liquidating trust.

"(c) The Litigation Subcommittee shall oversee (i) the prosecution of, subject to the exculpation and release provisions of the Plan, (A) claims against present and former officers and directors of the Debtors for actions arising during the period prior to the Petition Date (the “ D&O Claims ”), (B) claims against professionals and representatives retained by the Debtors with respect to conduct that occurred prior to the Petition Date; and (C) claims based on conduct that occurred prior to the commencement of the Debtors’ bankruptcy cases against third-parties for any non-contractual breach of duty to WMI, including, but not limited to, antitrust claims and business tort claims (collectively categories (A), (B), and (C) are the “ Recovery Claims ”) and (ii) the defense of Junior Disputed Claims including Disputed Claims of WMB Noteholders for misrepresentation, which Disputed Claims are classified in Class 18 (Subordinated Claims) pursuant to the Plan (the “ WMB Claims ”); provided , however , that the Litigation Subcommittee shall not pursue business tort Claims that were released against JPMC and its Related Persons pursuant to the Global Settlement Agreement. In connection with the foregoing, and subject to the review and approval of the Bankruptcy Court, upon notice and a hearing, the Litigation Subcommittee shall have discretion over the following matters: (x) retention of counsel and professionals in conjunction with the Recovery Claims and the Junior Disputed Claims; provided , however , that the prosecution of any D&O Claims shall be the responsibility of Klee, Tuchin, Bogdanoff, & Stern LLP and the defense of any Junior Disputed Claims shall be the responsibility of Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP, Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, LLP and such other counsel as may be appointed from time to time; (y) subject to the provisions set forth in Section 6.3(c) and Section 6.6(a) hereof, prosecution and settlement of the Recovery Claims; and (z) establishment of budgets and expenditure of the first Ten Million Dollars ($10,000,000.00) of the Litigation Funding and of the second Ten Million dollars ($10,000,000) if authorized by the Trust Advisory Board. In the event that all of the Litigation Funding has been spent, the Litigation Subcommittee may request additional funds from the Trust Advisory Board which shall have the sole and absolute discretion as to whether to allocate such additional funds. To the extent the Litigation Funding or any additional funds that are allocated to the Litigation Subcommittee are unused, such funds shall be distributed by the Liquidating Trust in accordance with the terms and conditions of the Plan."
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13.03.12 20:01
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6164 Postings, 6038 Tage landerCourt Documents 9862 - 9864

9862
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120313000000000002.pdf

Motion for Reconsideration and Request for Relief in Reference to the Confirmation of the Seventh Amended Joint Plan of Reorganization
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9863
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120313000000000003.pdf

Certification of Counsel Regarding Scheduling of Omnibus Hearing Dates
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9864
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229120313000000000004.pdf

Motion to Shorten Notice for the Motion for Reconsideration and Request for Relief in Reference to the Confirmation of the Seventh Amended Joint Plan of Reorganization
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13.03.12 20:06
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6164 Postings, 6038 Tage lander**Hearing 3/14/2012 10:30AM EST

**Hearing 3/14/2012 10:30AM EST - Phone Dial-in and Audio Archive

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13.03.12 20:22
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6721 Postings, 5693 Tage odin10deHearing veschoben auf 17.4.2012

Omnibus Hearing, 10:30 AM (Del). On the agenda:
49. Broadbill (LTW) application for payment of fees and expenses.

Moved to 4/17 [MBS Plaintiffs Motion to Classify Claim as Class 12]

http://www.my.calendars.net/wmi  

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