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18.10.09 21:31

1734 Postings, 5897 Tage alaadin75was bedeutet das?

soweit ich es verstanden habe, ist es positiv für Wamu...oder hab ich es falsch verstanden?  

19.10.09 09:34
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5132 Postings, 6930 Tage enis21auch aus w:o ..

Sehr interessanter Artikel in Folge der Verhaftung von Raj Rajaratnam und Insider Handel Shortselling bei Wamu. Ist lang aber sehr gut. Gerade erschienen


http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14326.html
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An der Börse sind 2 mal 2 niemals 4, sondern 5 minus 1.
Man muß nur die Nerven haben, das minus 1 auszuhalten.

19.10.09 11:02

336 Postings, 5940 Tage BertwinGanz schön ruhig heute :-(

Hab mir von heute schon etwas mehr Aktion erwartet,
Vielleicht kommts ja noch sobald unsere Übersee-Freunde aufmachen... :-)  

19.10.09 11:08

332 Postings, 6053 Tage Aktien 2009Artikel

Mike Stathis behauptet in seinem Artikel und man kann es ihm auch glauben, dass er sich nun lang und ausgiebig mit dem Thema befasst hat. Zählt nochmal alles auf, was er in anderen Artikeln schon beschrieben und am Schluss des Artikels sagt er, dass er keine Antworten vom FBI usw. weiter erhält, also es ein Spiel der Großen bleiben könnte und dass "die Steuerzahler und WaMu Aktionäre verlieren".
Habe ich das so richtig verstanden? Wenn ja, dann finde ich das nicht sehr positiv!

Was denkt Ihr? Werden uns nun die Fakten, dass hier gemogelt wurde, weiterhelfen. Oder werden hier einzelne kein Gehör bekommen und es wird unter den Tisch gekehrt. Und es wird wie bei einigen anderen Ünernahmen nicht postitv für die Aktionäre laufen. Auf jeden Fall finde ich Stathis nicht gerade zuversichtlich.  

19.10.09 11:08

10991 Postings, 8851 Tage andyykauft und verkauft in USA

das bringt Umsatz im Wert in den USA
nur so kann nachhaltig der Kurs bewegt werden  

19.10.09 12:04

628 Postings, 6801 Tage Memory1931Hallo Aktien2009

Dieser "Mike Stathis" könnte ja auch ein Bezahlter sein, der im Auftrag von irgendjemandem gegen Honorar agiert.

Ich persönlich kann mir nicht vorstellen, das bei so vielen involvierten Menschen aus/in der ganzen Welt hier das Recht gebogen werden kann.......

...wenn doch, dann fügt sich die US und A selbst den größten Schaden zu den die Welt je gesehen hat........ 

 

 

19.10.09 12:10

6019 Postings, 6795 Tage einstein16hmm

habe heute das Gefühl das es ziemlich gen Norden gehen wird,nur so....und bis jetzt lag mein Bauchgefühl immer richtig...aber?schauma mal....  

19.10.09 12:12

567 Postings, 5909 Tage benginokeinstein

wenn das stimmt, nehmen wir ab jetzt dein Bauch als Wegweisende Indikator.......................  

19.10.09 12:13

6019 Postings, 6795 Tage einstein16hmm

wie süss...........  

19.10.09 12:33

850 Postings, 5817 Tage myffandyy, link geht nicht

19.10.09 12:43

332 Postings, 6053 Tage Aktien 2009mal rein betriebswirtschaftlich gesehen

interessiert sich die Masse doch gar nicht für die Detailangelegenheiten. Nur ein kleiner Prozentsatz befasst sich mit diesen. Wo sollen da die "vielen involvierten Menschen" sein? Sieht man andere Pleiten, dann ist es doch schon gar betriebswirtschaftlich legitim Markanteile, egal auf welche Art und Weise, zu übernehmen, auszubauen und zu ergattern. Kann man überall lesen und wird an der UNI den unerfahrenen Jungs und Mädels von Anfang an eingetrichtert. Das sollte man nicht vergessen und bei fast allen Übernahmen müssen immer ein paar in Gras beißen...  Und das läuft halt nicht immer fair und meistens gewinnen die Institutionen…
OK, Strafzahlungen werden vereinbart. Aber was soll noch passieren?

Noch eine Anmerkung: Recht wird doch überall gebogen und das geben die Juristen als erstes sogar offenkundig zu.  

19.10.09 12:46

10991 Postings, 8851 Tage andyy!

More on WaMu Trading Activity
I also wanted to mention what I noticed as extremely bizarre WaMu stock price movements.  

From about March to June 2008, as WaMu average trading volume soared to over 200 million shares traded daily (to the best of my memory), I found WaMu stock price movements for most days over that period difficult to explain.

Let me be clear on this.

I closely followed WaMu every day during that period.  

I also followed the other banking stocks.

All of the other bank stock price movements during that period were explainable based on market strength, material public disclosures and financial industry investor sentiment.  

But the stock price movements of WaMu were quite bizarre in my opinion.

I was so actively involved that I placed approximately 200 day trades in WaMu from my personal account during a 3-month period.  

That may not be a lot of trades for some of you, but it was for me since I’m not a day trader.  

Day trading WaMu on many occasions was easy for even me; someone who focuses more on short-term and intermediate trades.

To be a successful day trader, you need to focus less on rational and fundamentals and more on instincts and technical analysis. Of all things that are of benefit to day traders, trading volume can be one of the most revealing.  

Day trading is much different than longer-term trading. It’s more of a crap shoot because many of the most valuable resources (such as valuations, market strength, etc.) are not that important since the trades are very short-term.

Yet, day trading WaMu in the Spring of 2008 was quite easy because many of the stock price movements (once they were in play) were easy to profit from because they occurred on huge volumes with a great deal of block trading.  

All one had to do was wait for the price move on heavy block trades and jump aboard for the ride.

And of course, make sure to get out before the end of the day.

I recall noting that for approximately 80% to 90% of the trading days over that time frame, WaMu stock price movements made absolutely no sense given the disclosed material for the bank as well as the general movement from the other banks (note that I previously stated that day trading was easy because the price movements could often be anticipated. Do not take that to mean that the price direction made sense).

Finally, note that there were several days (maybe 20-30) when WaMu had intraday swings of 15-20%, once again on heavy trading volume.  

It was one of the most bizarre periods of trading activity over a several month period I have ever seen.

If you are able to go back and study all of the data for each day during that period (and that would consume an enormous amount of time) you would understand what I mean. Some of you might have been trading WaMu during that period and know precisely what I’m talking about.  

So what do these observations mean?

I have no idea.

What I do know is that something very strange was going on with WaMu stock; not for one day or one week; not even for one month, but for several months.  

And this bizarre price activity was occurring on huge trading volumes.  

The question I have is this; how could so many shares behave so unpredictably and contrary to reason based on my own assessment of all publicly released data, and for such a long time frame?

Remember, I’m the guy who wrote in a book (2006) to short Fannie, Freddie, Accredited Lenders, Fremont General, Novistar, the banks and homebuilders.

So for those of you who don’t know who I am (which is understandable since the financial media has banned me), I can guarantee you there is no one who has more insight on this collapse.  
http://www.avaresearch.com/files/20090510131858.pdf

In fact, if you doubt me, perhaps you’d like to take a stab at the $20,000 reward I’m offering.
http://www.avaresearch.com/article_details-385.html

Even after TPG funded WaMu with over $7 billion in the Spring of 2008, the stock continued to trade in a very unpredictable manner.  

This too was very strange.  

In fact, as I previously mentioned, WaMu stock collapsed down to a price (~$9.25 from my best memory) shortly after TPG purchased WaMu shares for ($8.75).  

Now we know that during that time frame, JPM made an offer of around $8/share for WaMu.  Was this information spread illegally and acted upon by funds or banks?  

I’d say the SEC needs to add this investigation to the list I have made.  

You might recall that one of my claims in the SEC complaint was that WaMu was not insolvent.

Since the seizure, court documents now reveal that JPM has claimed WaMu was NOT insolvent.

If WaMu was not insolvent, why was insolvency listed as the official reason for the seizure by both the OTS and FDIC?  

When I made calls to the OTS and FDIC requesting proof of insolvency, officials kept using various methods of distraction and sidelining the issue. After I educated them on what was going on with the banking scams, they appeared to get nervous.

Let me be clear. The FDIC, under Shelia Bair robbed WaMu shareholders.

WaMu shareholders must demand answers.

Where is the proof that JPM was the only bidder for WaMu?

Why was JPM permitted to steal WaMu assets and deposits totaling over one-half trillion dollars for a paltry $1.9 billion?  The WaMu brand name combined with its 5000 fully-owned ATMs and 2200 branches alone was worth at least this much.  

Why was JPM permitted to take over $20 billion in cash from WaMu Federal Savings Bank and $4 billion from WaMu’s bank holding company?

Since the seizure, we also know that JPM had access to WaMu’s books when the bank was conducting due diligence. We must ask whether JPM leaked any rumors or inside information to other parties, which might have caused further naked shorting activities.

The SEC could easily find out this information if it wanted to.  The sad thing is that we will never know whether they checked.  

You should assume they did not and will not investigate any of the issues I have raised, UNLESS people start raising Hell with Washington.

In other words, YOU NEED TO SEND YOUR CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS THESE ARTICLES AND DEMAND A FULL INVESTIGATION BE CONDUCTED BY OUTSIDE PARTIES.

Finally, we know that WaMu was not included on the initial short ban list in July 2008. But we now know that former CEO Kerry Killinger sent a letter to the SEC specifically requesting to be included in this list.  http://www.avaresearch.com/article_details-394.html  

As I have previously stated, excluding Fannie and Freddie, there was absolutely no reason why the remaining 17 financial institutions would be added to this list based upon short interest data and financial information as of that period.  

The short interest ratio for the remaining financial firms was very low, and investors still had no idea of the extent of the problems with the banks’ toxic assets.  

In contrast, rumors were being spread about WaMu, Wachovia and E-Trade. As well, the financial instability of these three banks was the most vulnerable of all other financial firms.

As a result, the short interest ratio for each of these three firms ranged between 15-25% (WaMu short interest was 25%) during the time which this first short ban list was created.

Once again, the SEC needs to investigate the source of rumors regarding WaMu.

I’m willing to bet at least some of the rumors originated from someone inside JPM.

Perhaps the most sickening thing out this entire charade was that, all throughout, America’s mass-media propaganda machine hailed JP Morgan as a hero, rushing in to save America as it had done a few months earlier when it was handed Bear Stearns for pennies on the dollar, and with O risk involved.  http://www.avaresearch.com/article_details-161.html

In reality, the two largest banking heists in world history are certain to add tens of billions of dollars in net worth to JP Morgan, and potentially a similar amount of net income.

After writing down $118 billion in impaired WaMu assets by 25%, JPM is already making money. Just a few months later, those impaired assets have resulted in a net income of some $1.5 billion for the quarter (2009).

Estimates now show that those write downs could flip-flop into $29 billion of net income over the life of WaMu’s debt maturity.  

And of course, the media has propped Jamie Dimon as some kind of hero.

The media has also praised Shelia Bair as another superstar.

Similar to how the media praised Alan Greenspan for so many years, my guess is that down the road, the media will once again be eating its words when the truth comes out about JPM, Jamie Dimon, the FDIC, and the biggest banking heist in world history.

It would appear that Dimon has no intention of sticking around when the full truth surfaces.  Just as class-action lawsuits are starting to pile up from WaMu shareholders, Dimon has recently announced a coming resignation.  

Is his announcement a coincidence?  Decide for yourself.  

Perhaps you recall in late 2007 when Bank of America CEO Ken Lewis made a bid for Countrywide Financial.

Do you remember how the financial media was painting him out to be some great banking genius?  

A year later when Lewis announced the Merrill Lynch deal, the media continued with its praise. You might recall I wrote an article immediately after the announcement, exposing the real deal. Only in 2009 have I been proven correct. http://www.avaresearch.com/article_details-86.html

Like always, America’s useless media is now eating its words.

Meanwhile, the media continues its ban on me because they don’t want the truth to come out. They are protecting the interests of their financial sponsors; the financial industry.

That is precisely why they have selected the hams you read about and see on TV. I don’t think I need to mention any names.  

I have no reason to believe I will not be proven correct about WaMu, the FDIC, and JPM.

I don’t need to wait for the facts to surface because I already know the reality. And I’m willing to bet any amount of money that I’m right.  

19.10.09 12:53

5132 Postings, 6930 Tage enis21wenn TPG bezahlt wird , wird auch der kleine

aktionär bezahlt ! .. schließlich ist die ein und die selbe WKN im depot ! ;-)))))

TPG ist mir einfach zu cool !... im positiven sinne !.....
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An der Börse sind 2 mal 2 niemals 4, sondern 5 minus 1.
Man muß nur die Nerven haben, das minus 1 auszuhalten.

19.10.09 14:02

2988 Postings, 5839 Tage St-Jean-Cap-Ferrat@ enis

Das Video von FOX... Der Hammer, wenn Du mich fragst!
Wenn so etwas möglich ist, dann ist doch längst etwas im Busch, oder?

Brauchen die einen Schuldigen?
Die Regierung, FDIC, OTS, die anderen Führer in JPM und wahrscheinlich noch viele andere, brauchen einen Schuldigen?

Wäre natürlich der Richtige.

P.S.: Die extrem schlechte amerikanische Aussprache passt zum Inhalt. Noch schlimmere Aussprache als die vom sympathischen Claytrader.
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St Jean Cap Ferrat
Nur meine Meinung. Keine Kaufs-oder Verkaufsempfehlung.

Honni soit qui mal y pense!

19.10.09 14:14

81 Postings, 5782 Tage Hochspekulativziemlich ruhig heute...

vllt. zu ruhig?

oder die ruhe vor dem sturm?
Nur welcher Sturm - der Sturm des Auf- oder Absprungs auf/von der Aktie ?!?!
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"Nur meine Meinung! Keinerlei Empfehlungsaussprüche!"

gez.: Hochspekulativ

19.10.09 14:20
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850 Postings, 5817 Tage myffEs gibt nichts neues,

warum sollte es also auch nicht ruhig sein? Ist doch gut so.
Oder willst du noch mehr Geschichten über Bauchgefühle usw. hören?  

19.10.09 14:25

3398 Postings, 6022 Tage ARTNER514@myff

es gibt schon etwas neues!
du bist es
aber nicht auf unserer seite!  

19.10.09 14:28

850 Postings, 5817 Tage myffetwas genauer bitte.

Es gibt was neues? Dann poste doch mal bitte.

"du bist es" - Verstehe ich nicht.

Nicht auf unserer Seite? Nicht auf ariva oder nichts für WAMU, also ehe negative Neuigkeiten.

Fragen über Fragen.  

19.10.09 14:31
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3398 Postings, 6022 Tage ARTNER514@myff

du bist für mich nicht real!
dass war meine letzte antwort an dich
andere sollten sich eine eigene meinung bilden!  

19.10.09 14:34

850 Postings, 5817 Tage myffok verstehe

bist wohl etwas paranoid? sei dir gegönnt.  

19.10.09 14:43
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61 Postings, 5795 Tage lukeonlineNein, nein

Du bist wirklich nicht real! Einfach nur eine fiktive Person in unseren Köpfen......  

19.10.09 14:48

61 Postings, 5795 Tage lukeonline@ARTNER514

Ich bin dein Gewissen und ich sage dir, dass du in exakt 207 Tgaen Geburtstag hast. Rechne nach!  

19.10.09 14:53

1165 Postings, 5791 Tage RappelzappelNa ?

Denkt ihr heute geht es rauf oder runter oder gar seitwärts ? Sorry muß die frage einbringen nachdem ihr hir wieder vom thema abschweift  

19.10.09 15:00
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850 Postings, 5817 Tage myffInformativer Mehrwert

von Meinungen anderer User ob es nach Oben, nach Unten oder zur Seite schlägt geht doch gegen NULL.
Irgendwohin wirds wohl gehen und irgendeiner wird wohl Recht haben. Hat jemand mal geschaut wie dieser Topic hier heisst? "Wamu WKN 893906 News !"
Argh! So langsahm kann ich das nicht mehr ertragen, echt schlimm hier!  

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