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12.10.09 10:47

1720 Postings, 6047 Tage decon1401Dann haben sie sicherlich wieder........

etliche Milliarden mit WAMU-Assets eingefahren und der Settlement-Druck erhöht sich kontinuierlich.


Decon
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Jedes Glück braucht einen Schmied !

12.10.09 10:55

484 Postings, 6069 Tage neuling69@all

ist heute nicht feiertag in us
soviel ich weis ist columbusday ???  

12.10.09 10:56

3398 Postings, 6028 Tage ARTNER514....

12.10.09 10:59

390 Postings, 5913 Tage PKowskiAber trotzdem Handel!

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Martin Luther King, Jr. Day
January 19
 
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Good Friday
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Memorial Day
May 25

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12.10.09 11:25

955 Postings, 6397 Tage albayich schätze

dass wir donnerstag oder freitag die 20 cent wieder sehen werden. am 23 ocktober ist der termin.
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Gruss Albay

12.10.09 11:32
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5132 Postings, 6936 Tage enis21stimmt nicht albay

http://www.my.calendars.net/wmi

http://www.ghostofwamu.com/documents/09-50934/09-50934-0178.pdf
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An der Börse sind 2 mal 2 niemals 4, sondern 5 minus 1.
Man muß nur die Nerven haben, das minus 1 auszuhalten.

12.10.09 11:46
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955 Postings, 6397 Tage albayaha

noch besser also am 22 . ocktober
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Gruss Albay

12.10.09 11:55

332 Postings, 6059 Tage Aktien 2009By Matt Krantz, USA TODAY

Halloween is weeks away, but on Wall Street, it's already like a night of the living dead.
A number of the stocks at the center of the financial crisis that had been practically left for dead, including Lehman Bros., Washington Mutual (WaMu), American International Group (AIG), Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, have posted strong percentage gains amid the stock market's recovery.

Lehman and WaMu, for instance, were booted from stock exchanges and filed for bankruptcy protection. Yet on the lightly regulated Pink Sheets markets, this year their stocks are up 500% and 1,050%, respectively.

Meanwhile, AIG, (AIG) Fannie(FNM) and Freddie(FRE) are still listed on the New York Stock Exchange, but must repay massive debts to the government. Even so, the shares are up 41%, 88% and 134%, respectively.

While it's impossible to lump all the stocks together, market observers say the jumps are a sign of rampant speculation and false hopes creeping into corners of the market that investors are better off avoiding.

"These gains are like the white static noise in the background that I tend to let go," says Robert Maltbie of research firm Singular Research. "People are playing these as the next penny stocks."

Fans of these stocks point to many reasons why the rallies are justifiable. But experts who study financial stocks and severe economic distress call the moves questionable and a case of dead stocks walking because:

•Severely battered stock prices magnify gains.

It's easy to be dazzled by the percentage gains in these stocks, but they're exaggerated by their low levels.

For instance, WaMu's more than 1,000% gain this year is just a function of the stock trading on the Pink Sheets for 23 cents, says George Putnam, publisher of The Turnaround Letter, who tracks corporate bankruptcies.

Some less-informed investors figure large stock moves by beaten-down stocks such as AIG and Fannie Mae that still are listed on major exchanges, mean firms such as Washington Mutual and Lehman that have filed for bankruptcy protection must surge, too.

"With stock prices so low, you have speculative buying," he says. Christopher Whalen, at banking research Institutional Risk Analytics, says, "It's not unusual for bankrupt things to flop on the floor of the boat for a while."

•Companies face pending legal action.

One big reason behind speculation in shares of WaMu is pending lawsuits. While the bank WaMu was sold to JPMorgan Chase for $1.9 billion in September 2008, the WaMu holding company is suing both the FDIC and JPMorgan to reclaim assets. JPMorgan declined to comment.

Speculating over whether the WaMu holding company will win the lawsuits and reclaim money is a popular pursuit for bulls on the stock. WaMu "is far from being a zombie stock," says Hans Brost, founder of Washington Mutual Equity Group, which operates a website to compile pending legal action with the company. Brost, who invested in WaMu stock after the JPMorgan deal, says he expects the courts to find the deal wasn't handled properly. "It was a travesty what happened to WaMu," he says. "There could be a significant recovery," he says. "I am betting on it."

•Artificial buying has a big impact.

Much of the buying in the zombie stocks is caused, ironically, by investors who bet against them, says Frederick Cannon, analyst at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods.

In something known as short covering, investors who made huge gains betting against these stocks must purchase them in order to realize their gains, he says.

Investors who lack sophistication may confuse short covering for real buying, he says. The stock in WaMu and Fannie Mae are worthless, yet traders are trying to make profits off daily moves, Cannon says. "You're getting guys in pajamas that are day trading this stuff," he says.

•There's a shortage of credible information.

As the companies faltered, the number of analysts following them has dropped off, too. Gradient Analytics' Donn Vickrey, who closely covered the financials of AIG, for instance, no longer follows the company or stock.

This void of information gives the speculators even more influence, thanks to online chat boards where they congregate.

Investors who are trading in the zombie stocks are forgetting the level of duress the financial system and the companies were under when the government took action, says Patricia McCoy, a law professor at the University of Connecticut. The moves taken by the government to save the system as these companies failed cost stockholders their stakes. "When the reckless loans crashed, shareholders should be wiped out," she says.

But the fact investors are willing to gamble on the stocks, and feel there might be a recovery, is a dramatic sign of the very nature of speculation. The run-up in the zombie stocks "shows hope springs eternal," McCoy says.  

12.10.09 12:18

71 Postings, 5826 Tage G0LDJUNG3Hallo

Die Zahlen von JP werden sich aber nicht direkt auf unseren Kurs auswirken, oder?

Komisch wirds halt nur wenn die wamu`s wieder einen guten AAnteil des Gewinns ausmachen.

Aber vor dem 22sten wird sich glaube ich nicht viel tun!

Neue Woche=Neues Glück

 

12.10.09 12:19

50245 Postings, 5833 Tage BasterdWohin geht's, was passiert ?

Kann mir einer mal kurz, knapp, verständlich und nicht auf Denglisch seine Meinung mitteilen, wohin es in den nächsten zwei Wochen gehen wird ?

Und das bitte nicht geographisch, sondern kurstechnisch.

Danke.
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Besser die Hälfte gewonnen als das Doppelte verloren.

12.10.09 12:22

1436 Postings, 6065 Tage jawanseGääääääääääääääääääähhhhhhhn

12.10.09 12:27

3396 Postings, 5967 Tage pachi11Basterd

Hoffen tun wir alle auf 20$ aber was in den nächsten Wochen ansteht kann dir keiner verbindlich sagen...

Meine Vermutung, wenn wieder ein Termin ansteht ,so wie glaube ich am 22.10 das der Fall ist, wird sich wieder etwas in Richtung Norden tun...

Wie gesagt nur meine Meinung  

12.10.09 12:33
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269 Postings, 5844 Tage Freshjive78....

Meine Vermutung ist, dass es vor dem 22.10 nochmal einen kleinen Run auf WAMU geben wird und der Kurs dementsprechend anzieht. Da du es nicht geographisch haben willst - es geht nach oben :-P  

12.10.09 12:35

1314 Postings, 7999 Tage hauslVielleicht kommt der run heute

werd mir vorsichtshalber noch ein paar Pfund ins Nest legen  

12.10.09 12:41

1318 Postings, 5785 Tage VanDelftQ3 JPM

@goldjung:

Sollten die Q3-Zahlen bei JPM ausweisen, daß sich das "Invest" in WaMu als erneut ertragreich erweist, wird das m. E. sehr wohl positive Auswirkungen auf den muq-, pq- und kq-Kurs unhaben (bei huq glaube ich daran im Moment weniger).
Doch nicht nur deshalb gehe ich davon aus, daß sich auch vor dem 22.10.09 noch erheblich "etwas tun" wird.
Ich bin sehr gespannt auf den Reorganisations-Plan.

Dies stellt natürlich nur meine persönliche Ansicht dar.

VanDelft  

12.10.09 14:43

446 Postings, 5940 Tage haldolcolumbus day

es gibt in einigen threads uneinigkeit darüber, ob wegen columbus day heute in den usa gehandelt wird oder nicht. weiß es jemand genau?  

12.10.09 14:44

5132 Postings, 6936 Tage enis21.........

kanada hat geschlossen ..usa hat geöffnet !

U.S. Holidays*
Martin Luther King, Jr. Day - January 19, 2009
Memorial Day - May 25, 2009
Independence Day - July 3, 2009 (in lieu of July 4)
Thanksgiving - November 26, 2009


http://www.tmxmoney.com/en/market_activity/market_hours.html
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An der Börse sind 2 mal 2 niemals 4, sondern 5 minus 1.
Man muß nur die Nerven haben, das minus 1 auszuhalten.

12.10.09 14:45

446 Postings, 5940 Tage haldolmerci...hoffe es geht nordwärts

12.10.09 14:46

5132 Postings, 6936 Tage enis21geduld!

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An der Börse sind 2 mal 2 niemals 4, sondern 5 minus 1.
Man muß nur die Nerven haben, das minus 1 auszuhalten.

12.10.09 14:48

5132 Postings, 6936 Tage enis21ja pachi hallllooooo

der anleihehandel findet nicht statt! .. der aktienhandel findet heute in den usa statt !
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An der Börse sind 2 mal 2 niemals 4, sondern 5 minus 1.
Man muß nur die Nerven haben, das minus 1 auszuhalten.

12.10.09 14:49

41 Postings, 5789 Tage ozzyshares@enis21

kleine Korrektur...

2009 Stock Market Holidays - Stock Markets Closed

New Year's Day - January 1, 2009
Family Day - February 16, 2009
Good Friday - April 10, 2009
Victoria Day - May 18, 2009
Canada Day - July 1, 2009
Civic Day - August 3, 2009
Labour Day - September 7, 2009
Thanksgiving Day - October 12, 2009
Christmas Day - December 25, 2009
Boxing Day - December 28, 2009 (in lieu of December 26)

Quelle: http://www.tmxmoney.com/en/market_activity/market_hours.html  

12.10.09 14:50

3396 Postings, 5967 Tage pachi11ja enis

entschuldige bitte  

12.10.09 14:51

5132 Postings, 6936 Tage enis21ozzy

kanada hat geschlossen......... usa ist offen ... wie oft denn noch !!!!
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An der Börse sind 2 mal 2 niemals 4, sondern 5 minus 1.
Man muß nur die Nerven haben, das minus 1 auszuhalten.

12.10.09 14:51

41 Postings, 5789 Tage ozzyshares@enis21

stock markets closed...ist doch sehr sehr eindeutig, isn´t it?!? ;o))

heute geht in USA nix, because of thanksgiving day  

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