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09.10.08 14:59
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2232 Postings, 6935 Tage TraderonTourAchja das sehe ich ja jetzt erst

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Wieso ist Realtime TEchnologie so abgeschmiert ?!? Einer meiner Lieblicngsfirmen... Hätte ich das gesehen.. 6 Euro, das war ja ein Schnäppchen.. Und jetzt immernoch finde ich... Oder was ist passiert ?
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Mit freundl. Grüßen TraderonTour

09.10.08 14:59
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2225 Postings, 6236 Tage aliasfelli808Und auf die Futures

gebe ich nicht soviel, die Vergangenheit lehrt uns, mehr Schein als sein! Ich sehe das alles och eher objektiv, ich bezeichne das als Venusfalle(oder Futurefalle)
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09.10.08 15:08
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1433 Postings, 6304 Tage powerman5130 / 5085 / 5035

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09.10.08 15:12
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2225 Postings, 6236 Tage aliasfelli808Ja Trader

du ist das richtige Schlagwort "Realtime", was die letzten Tag schlecht oder garnicht funktioniert. Die Emmis kommen da auch immer mit einen Gleichgültigkeit daher, vom feinsten. Ich sage es ja immer Servicewüste Deutschland!

@Jungchen: Bist short? Hättest schon 34 Punkte mitnehmen können...lg
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Das Leben ist wie ein Papierflugzeug, sitzt du drin und es regnet dann bist du am Arsch(In Englisch klingt das besser:))

09.10.08 15:15
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1812 Postings, 7073 Tage loupluErinnert Ihr Euch?

9.10.2007  Dow 14.164,53

...und heute ca 9.350!

Wer hätte das gedacht?  

09.10.08 15:18
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2225 Postings, 6236 Tage aliasfelli808US Mulls Bank Stakes to Restore Credit Confidence

The New York Times als Quelle , also die amerikanische F.A.Z



Treasury officials say the just-passed $700 billion bailout bill gives them the authority to inject cash directly into banks that request it. Such a move would quickly strengthen banks’ balance sheets and, officials hope, persuade them to resume lending. In return, the law gives the Treasury the right to take ownership positions in banks, including healthy ones.

The Treasury plan, still preliminary, resembles one announced on Wednesday in Britain. Under that plan, the British government would offer banks like the Royal Bank of Scotland, Barclays and HSBC Holdings up to $87 billion to shore up their capital in exchange for preference shares. It also would provide a guarantee of about $430 billion to help banks refinance debt.

The American recapitalization plan, officials say, has emerged as one of the most favored new options being discussed in Washington and on Wall Street. The appeal is that it would directly address the worries that banks have about lending to one another and to other customers.

This new interest in direct investment in banks comes after yet another tumultuous day in which the Federal Reserve and five other central banks marshaled their combined firepower to cut interest rates but failed to stanch the global financial panic.

In a coordinated action, the central banks reduced their benchmark interest rates by one-half percentage point. On top of that, the Bank of England announced its plan to nationalize part of the British banking system and devote almost $500 billion to guarantee financial transactions between banks.

The coordinated rate cut was unprecedented and surprising. Never before has the Fed issued an announcement on interest rates jointly with another central bank, let alone five other central banks, including the People’s Bank of China.

Yet the world’s markets hardly seemed comforted. Credit markets on Wednesday remained almost as stalled as the day before. Stock prices, which had plunged in Europe and Asia before the announcement, continued to plummet afterward. And stock prices in the United States went on a roller-coaster ride, at the end of which the Dow Jones industrial average was down 189 points, or 2 percent.



The gloomy market response sent policy makers and outside experts on a scramble for additional remedies to stabilize the banks and reassure investors.

There is no shortage of ideas, ranging from the partial nationalization proposal to a guarantee by the Fed of all lending between banks.

Senator John McCain , the Republican presidential candidate, on Wednesday refined his proposal — revealed in a debate with the Democratic nominee, Senator Barack Obama , the night before — to allow millions of Americans to refinance their mortgages with government assistance.

As Washington casts about for Plan B, investors are clamoring for the Fed to lower interest rates to nearly zero. Some are also calling for governments worldwide to provide another round of economic stimulus through expensive public works projects.

Yet behind the scramble for solutions lies a hard reality: the financial crisis has mutated into a global downturn that economists warn will be painful and protracted, and for which there is no quick cure.

“Everyone is conditioned to getting instant relief from the medicine, and that is unrealistic,” said Allen Sinai, president of Decision Economics, a forecasting firm in Lexington, Mass. “As hard as it is for investors and jobholders and politicians in an election year, this crisis will not end without a lot more pain.”


One concern about the Treasury’s bailout plan is that it calls for limits on executive pay when capital is directly injected into a bank. The law directs Treasury officials to write compensation standards that would discourage executives from taking “unnecessary and excessive risks” and that would allow the government to recover any bonus pay that is based on stated earnings that turn out to be inaccurate. In addition, any bank in which the Treasury holds a stake would be barred from paying its chief executive a “golden parachute” package.

Treasury officials worry that aggressive government purchases, if not done properly, could alarm bank shareholders by appearing to be punitive or could be interpreted by the market as a sign that target banks were failing.

At a news conference on Wednesday, the Treasury secretary, Henry M. Paulson Jr. , pointedly named the Treasury’s new authority to inject capital into institutions as the first in a list of new powers included in the bailout law.



“We will use all the tools we’ve been given to maximum effectiveness,” Mr. Paulson said, “including strengthening the capitalization of financial institutions of every size.”

The idea is gaining support even among longtime Republican policy makers who have spent most of their careers defending laissez-faire economic policies.

“The problem is the uncertainty that people have about doing business with banks, and banks have about doing business with each other,” said William Poole, a staunchly free-market Republican who stepped down as president of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis on Aug. 31. “We need to eliminate that uncertainty as fast as we can, and one way to do that is by injecting capital directly into banks. I think it could be done very quickly.”

Mr. Paulson acknowledged that the flurry of emergency steps had done little to break the cycle of fear and mistrust, and he pleaded for patience.

“The turmoil will not end quickly,” Mr. Paulson told reporters on Wednesday. “Neither the passage of this law nor the implementation of these initiatives will bring an immediate end to the current difficulties.”

Mr. Paulson will play host to finance ministers and central bankers from the Group of 7 countries this Friday. But he cautioned against expecting a grand plan to emerge from the gathering.

More likely, the participants will compare notes about the measures they are adopting in their own countries. David H. McCormick, Treasury’s under secretary for international affairs, said there was no “one size fits all” remedy for the crisis, though countries were cooperating through the coordinated cuts in interest rates, with guarantees on bank deposits and in regulations.

At the Federal Reserve in Washington, officials insisted they had not run out of options and made it clear they were willing to do whatever it took to shore up the economy.

Fed officials increasingly talk about the challenge they face with a phrase that President Bush used in another context: “regime change.”

This regime change refers to a change in the economic environment so radical that, at least for a while, economic policy makers will need to suspend what are usually sacred principles: minimal interference in free markets, gradualism and predictability.


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In the last month, both the Treasury and the Fed took extraordinary steps toward nationalizing three of the biggest financial companies in the country. Last month, the Treasury took over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac , the giant government-sponsored mortgage-finance companies that were on the brink of collapse. A week later, the Fed took control of the American International Group , the failing insurance conglomerate, in exchange for agreeing to lend it $85 billion.

On Wednesday, the Federal Reserve announced that it would lend A.I.G. an additional $37.8 billion.

But neither the individual corporate bailouts nor the Fed’s enormous emergency lending programs — including up to $900 billion through its Term Auction Facility for banks — have succeeded in jump-starting the credit markets.

“The core problem is that the smart people are realizing that the banking system is broken,” said Carl B. Weinberg, chief economist at High Frequency Economics. “Nobody knows who is holding the tainted assets, how much they have and how it affects their balance sheets. So nobody is willing to believe that anybody else isn’t insolvent, until it’s proven otherwise.”

Copyright © 2008 The New York Times
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09.10.08 15:20
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Hope is that recovery will begin by end of 2009: IMF
marketwatch.com

Gestern noch in die andere Richtung getrommelt...
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09.10.08 15:22
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2225 Postings, 6236 Tage aliasfelli808Paulson der einzig normale aus Amerika

"Mr. Paulson acknowledged that the flurry of emergency steps had done little to break the cycle of fear and mistrust, and he pleaded for patience."
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Das Leben ist wie ein Papierflugzeug, sitzt du drin und es regnet dann bist du am Arsch(In Englisch klingt das besser:))

09.10.08 15:26
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18637 Postings, 8512 Tage jungchenlong raus

CM5LLC ausgestoppt vk4,23 (kk3,88)  
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Ich brauche einen Balkon - damit ich zum Volk sprechen kann.

09.10.08 15:30
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13154 Postings, 6358 Tage orient expressso jetzt noch auf dax 5140 mit schwung

und dann kann ich mein CB23N8 ensorgen kk 10,15 vk 11,15 vorher geb ich den nicht her 600 euro will ich ,bei 5140 gehe ich wieder short LS8D65 600 mal  

09.10.08 15:34
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18637 Postings, 8512 Tage jungchencool

dass meine longs immer am tief des moves ausgestoppt werden und vice versa.
SLs haben schon was ekliges
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Ich brauche einen Balkon - damit ich zum Volk sprechen kann.

09.10.08 15:43
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2225 Postings, 6236 Tage aliasfelli808Was der Dow

gerade macht juckt denn Dax gerade irgendiwe nicht, zieht nur marginal mit
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09.10.08 15:50
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2225 Postings, 6236 Tage aliasfelli808Ich hatte es schonmal geschrieben,

wir sind in der Phase wo eine bedeutungsvolle Verlagerung der Gewichtungen der Märkte stattfindet.
Das heisst Amerika verliert an Bedeutung, weil wir in Europa nun selber genug Probleme haben.Deshalb richte ich für mich persönlich meinen Fokus wieder mehr nach Europa. Denn die Finanzwelt ist in der Realwirtschaft angekommen. Dazu musste es leider erst soweit kommen !
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09.10.08 15:58

2225 Postings, 6236 Tage aliasfelli808Bald wird London

der Leitindex für uns sein...Eigentlich wird ja nun auch das doppelte an Geld umgesetzt wird!
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09.10.08 15:59

2225 Postings, 6236 Tage aliasfelli808das letze"wird" bitte

überlesen! :)
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09.10.08 16:01
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174 Postings, 6492 Tage BörsenwarriorKaum geht der DOW

nach oben wird er gleich wieder abverkauft.  

09.10.08 16:04

2225 Postings, 6236 Tage aliasfelli808Slow down, move fast !

Da war sie , die Venusfalle!
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Das Leben ist wie ein Papierflugzeug, sitzt du drin und es regnet dann bist du am Arsch(In Englisch klingt das besser:))

09.10.08 16:06
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3469 Postings, 6651 Tage KnitzebreiDie Vola ist immens - immens krank ist der Markt:)

09.10.08 16:06

13154 Postings, 6358 Tage orient expressdie drehen nochmal hoch ,denke heute gehen

se net ins minus,sonst  kriegen die händler grossen ärger mit trichet ,der hat ja alle gewarnt.  

09.10.08 16:08

536 Postings, 6415 Tage tradingstarund die bullen scharren doch mit den hufen

schreibt derTrader.at

siehe hier. und der wird es ja wohl wissen...

http://www.be24.at/blog/entry/614851/...der-kommt-noch-was-auf-uns-zu  

09.10.08 16:09

2286 Postings, 6190 Tage Bruno EisenträgerGap im SPX ist zu?

dann dürfen se ihn wenn se wollen jetzt von der Kette lassen!
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09.10.08 16:09
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13154 Postings, 6358 Tage orient expressknitze die vola ist gut für das traden ohne stopp

nur schlecht mit stopp,am besten swingtrading  

09.10.08 16:11

13154 Postings, 6358 Tage orient expressab zur 5140 long raus short rein

09.10.08 16:11
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2286 Postings, 6190 Tage Bruno EisenträgerNe Gap nicht zu

korrigiere: sehe gerade TT 88, Schluss war 85
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Dies ist keine Aufforderung zu irgendwas, sondern nur meine Meinung. Daher: Augen auf!

09.10.08 16:17
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12950 Postings, 6585 Tage kostoleniPaulson hat recht- Pejschens is all you need...

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