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09.06.21 12:06
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169 Postings, 74 Tage TechandRenewableZusammenhänge IBM, Healthcare und Spacs

https://seekingalpha.com/article/...e-pieces-spacs-ibm-and-healthcare
Interessanter Artikel über den möglichen strategischen Hintergrund der Spac-Käufe.

Außerdem https://seekingalpha.com/news/...for-250b-bill-to-counter-chinas-rise
Dies ist jetzt nur meine Meinung: Ich denke bei diesen 250 Mrd. sollte auch die ein oder andere Initiative zu AI oder Supply Chain für Palantir interessant sein
 

10.06.21 16:57

79 Postings, 169 Tage timewalkerAufruhr am Repo-Markt:

Aufruhr am Repo-Markt: Fed zieht 500 Milliarden Dollar Liquidität aus dem Markt
Die Federal Reserve musste am Mittwoch auf einen Schlag US-Staatsanleihen im Rekordumfang von 503 Milliarden Dollar verkaufen. Denn ihre lockere Geldpolitik hat den Markt mit Liquidität überschwemmt.

https://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/...uiditaet-aus-dem-Markt  

11.06.21 10:10
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169 Postings, 74 Tage TechandRenewableRevan

Diese Berechnungen haben sicher ihren Wert, ich glaube für hochbewertete Tech Aktien machen sie weniger Sinn. Eine Allianz oder RWE kann man sicher sehr gut damit einschätzen. Bei Amazon, Apple usw. wäre man wahrscheinlich außen vor gewesen. Und bei Palantir vermutlich auch. Hoffe ich?
 

11.06.21 13:55
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335 Postings, 4374 Tage RevanTechandRenewable

Ich sehe das ja auch wie du in Bezug auf die Tech Aktien. Aber vorsichtig sollte man immer bei solch hohen Bewertungen sein.
https://stocknews.com/news/pltr-is-palantir-a-buy-under-25/  

11.06.21 14:26
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464 Postings, 673 Tage cosmocTech

Ganz genau, schließlich beruht die Berechnung auf den FCF, die meisten Wachstumswerte weisen dabei oft noch gar keinen FCF auf, bzw. Ist dieser negativ und spätestens hier ergibt das ganze keinen Sinn mehr. Erzeugt dennoch die gewollten Klicks  

11.06.21 14:31
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464 Postings, 673 Tage cosmocGegenbeispiel

Hier wurde die Berechnung rückwärts gemacht, allerdings mit Amazon, wie viel hätte Amazon zum IPO kosten müssen, um einen marktüblichen Zins von 6,9% zu erzielen, hier wies Amazon ebenso noch keinen FCF, das KUV wäre vermutlich >>1000

https://www.fool.de/2021/05/08/...hes-kursziel-waere-korrekt-gewesen/  

11.06.21 15:10

169 Postings, 74 Tage TechandRenewablePLTR Artikel

Entscheidend ist glaube ich die schiere Anzahl an Artikeln. Ob positiv oder negativ. Nur interessante und kontroverse Unternehmen denen man zumindest viel zutraut haben eine solche Aufmerksamkeit. Und das ist in jedem Fall positiv  

11.06.21 15:29

556 Postings, 2090 Tage FrankNStein@cosmoc

die Rückwärtsrechnung der AMZN-Kurse  ist amüsant  ...
keine Ahnung warum mir bei sowas immer South-Park's  Captain Hindsight and und seine Begleiter Shoulda, Coulda, and Woulda in den Sinn kommen 😃  

12.06.21 23:47
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79 Postings, 169 Tage timewalkerInterview Series: Palantir CEO Alex Karp

13.06.21 11:12
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169 Postings, 74 Tage TechandRenewableInterview

?wenn Du eine Mio. Antworten im Kopf hast und nur eine sagen kannst?
Ich habe leider nicht so viel verstanden. Auf Wallstreetbets haben diverse Leute aber gute Zusammenfassungen gepostet und waren ganz begeistert. Mal sehen ob Leute außerhalb der Blase das auch so sehen.
Die absolut wichtigsten Themen scheinen für Karp aber die Suche nach den absoluten Top-Leuten als Mitarbeiter und die weitere Verbesserung des Produkts statt maximaler Umsatzausweitung. Ich denke ich werde noch weiter zukaufen  

14.06.21 00:37
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1327 Postings, 1140 Tage amorphisTech...

Das werde ich auch. Monat für Monat ;-)  

14.06.21 06:51
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79 Postings, 169 Tage timewalkerPalantir vs. C3.ai

Palantir vs. C3.ai: Which Is the Better Artificial Intelligence Stock?
Palantir (NYSE:PLTR) and C3.ai (NYSE:AI) both help organizations and companies crunch data with AI-powered tools.

Palantir, which generates more than half its revenue from government contracts, wants its Gotham platform to become the "default operating system for data" across the U.S. government. Its Foundry platform provides data-mining tools to large commercial customers.

C3.ai serves a wide range of clients across the commercial, industrial, and government sectors. It generates most of its revenue from energy giants like Baker Hughes and ENGIE.

Palantir -- which went public via a direct listing last September -- started trading at $10 per share, surged to the high $30s in February, and now trades in the mid-$20s. C3.ai went public at $42 per share via an IPO last December, opened at $100 on the first day, but now trades in the low $60s.

Both stocks have underperformed the S&P 500 this year as investors have been moving from growth to value stocks, but is one of these companies a better long-term play on the booming AI market?

The differences between Palantir and C3.ai
Palantir, which is named after the all-seeing orbs from The Lord of the Rings, helps organizations accumulate data on individuals from disparate sources, then processes it with algorithms to make data-driven decisions.

Palantir's biggest customer is the U.S. government, and its tools are used by the CIA, FBI, ICE, and all branches of the military. Its technology was reportedly used to hunt down Osama bin Laden in 2011, but it was also used by ICE in recent years to locate and deport undocumented immigrants.

C3.ai initially only served energy companies before expanding into other markets. Unlike Palantir, which gathers data from external and internal sources, C3.ai mainly uses a company's internal operations.

C3.ai's algorithms can schedule maintenance routines, detect fraud, optimize inventories, and improve CRM (customer relationship management) systems. In short, it's a lot less controversial bet than Palantir.

How fast is Palantir growing?
Palantir's revenue increased 47% to $1.1 billion in 2020. Its government revenue rose 77% as its commercial revenue grew 22%.

It expanded its government contracts with the FDA, U.S. Army, and U.S. Air Force, and its commercial business attracted big customers including Rio Tinto, PG&E, and BP. Its adjusted gross and operating margins expanded, but it still posted a net loss of $1.2 billion -- compared to a loss of $580 million in 2019.

In the first quarter of 2021, Palantir's revenue rose 49% year-over-year to $341 million, with 76% growth in its government business and 19% growth in its commercial business. Its adjusted gross and operating margins expanded again, but its net loss again widened, from $54.3 million to $123.5 million. On the bright side, its adjusted EBITDA turned positive with a profit of $119.8 million -- but that excludes its stock-based compensation and a lot of "one time" expenses.

Wall Street expects Palantir's revenue to rise 35% this year, while the company expects its annual revenue to increase more than 30% every year through 2025. That confident outlook indicates a belief that its government business will remain stable as it gradually gains more commercial customers, but the company could remain steeped in controversy about data-gathering and deeply unprofitable for years to come.

How fast is C3.ai growing?
C3.ai's revenue rose 17% to $183.2 million in fiscal 2021, which ended in April. That marked a significant slowdown from its 71% growth in 2020, mainly due to pandemic-related disruptions of the energy and industrial sectors.

Its average contract value also decreased from $12.1 million in 2020 to $7.2 million in 2021, even as it initiated new enterprise AI projects with big customers like 3M, Consolidated Edison, Shell, and the New York Power Authority. But its total number of customers rose 82% to 89 at the end of the year, which indicates its business could recover quickly after the pandemic ends. It expects its revenue to increase 33% to 35% in the current fiscal year.

C3.ai's adjusted gross margin stayed flat in fiscal 2021 as its operating margin remained in the red, but its net loss narrowed year-over-year from $69.4 million to $55.7 million. It doesn't calculate its profits in adjusted EBITDA terms, and analysts expect it to stay unprofitable for the foreseeable future.

The valuations and verdict
Palantir and C3.ai trade at 31 and 26 times this year's sales, respectively. Those high price-to-sales ratios indicate neither stock is cheap in this market, especially as investors rotate from growth to value stocks.

That said, it makes more sense to invest in the company that is more dependent on stable government customers than the one that relies heavily on the macro-sensitive energy and industrial sectors. It also makes more sense to invest in the company with superior revenue growth if both stocks are trading at comparable price-to-sales ratios.

Therefore, Palantir might be more controversial than C3.ai, but I believe it's the better growth play in the AI market. C3.ai's long-term prospects still look bright, but its stock remains too expensive relative to its growth.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/06/13/...he-better-artificial-in/
 

14.06.21 15:39
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1327 Postings, 1140 Tage amorphisNeuer contract 5,9 Mio

14.06.21 21:21

169 Postings, 74 Tage TechandRenewableCathy

Bei 25 Dollar hatte Cathy Woods im März nach dem ordentlichen Absturz einen ganzen Tag lang zugekauft. Die Reddit-Gemeinde war begeistert. ?Cathy holds the line?.
Jetzt ist es natürlich ein kräftiger Widerstand und ich bin gespannt ob es am Donnerstag tatsächlich die FDIC Entscheidung gibt. Hoffentlich positiv!  

15.06.21 09:28

1327 Postings, 1140 Tage amorphisSeit dem 02.06. keine Bewegung mehr auf...

...Institutioneller Seite:

https://fintel.io/so/us/pltr

Wir befinden uns wohl im Sommerloch ;-)  

15.06.21 13:38

9174 Postings, 7938 Tage bauwiAuffällig war der gestrige

Deckel bei 25 $. Denn bei 25 $  kommt ein Kaufsignal, welches vermutlich vermieden werden soll, doch auf Sicht nicht verhindert werden kann, da Tech in den nächsten Monaten wieder läuft. Das hat vor allem charttechnische Gründe, die jedoch auch von der Zuversicht einer eindämmungsfähigen Inflation lebt.  
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MfG bauwi
Die Freiheit des Menschen liegt nicht darin, daß er tun kann, was er will, sondern das er nicht tun muß, was er nicht will.

15.06.21 15:12
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169 Postings, 74 Tage TechandRenewableNew strategig alliance Origin Materials

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210615005653/en/
Das schaut natürlich gut aus in der aktuellen Klimadiskussion. Kein Volumen gemeldet aber ein perfektes Thema  

15.06.21 18:25
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1327 Postings, 1140 Tage amorphisPalantir receives patent

16.06.21 12:21
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556 Postings, 2090 Tage FrankNSteinVideo und Artikel

zur Ernennung des früheren Airbus CEO Thomas Enders zum COB bei Lilium
Lilium holds Analyst Day, announcing former Airbus CEO Dr. Thomas Enders will serve as Chairman of the Board following business combination with Qell
https://www.finanzen.net/nachricht/aktien/...ation-with-qell-10244364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYVyGT6s-io
 

16.06.21 12:31
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556 Postings, 2090 Tage FrankNSteinBarron's Live-Event mit Alex Karp und

16 anderen CEO's zum Thema Investing in Tech

Join Barron?s Investing in Tech Conference to Hear From the CEOs of Palantir, BioNTech, and Others

Palantir CEO Alex Karp and BioNTech CEO  Ugur Sahin are among executives who will be interviewed live at the Barron?s Investing in Tech event Wednesday.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/...ng-in-tech-conference-51623762055

On June 16, Barron's Investing in Tech Virtual Summit will convene the industry's most sought-after investors, entrepreneurs, and executives such as Steve Case, Chairman and CEO of Revolution LLC, Co-Founder of AOL;  Enrique Lores, CEO and President of HP; Lydia Jett, Partner of SoftBank Investment Advisors and more, for conversations on where bets are being made in tech. We will explore topics such as how AI, cloud computing, IoT and digital payments are transforming businesses; the new workplace and managing a remote workforce; the companies serving entrepreneurs as they reopen; demand for electric cars and more.

Anmeldung um eine Einladung zu erhalten hier  (evtl. hat ja jemand Glück 😀
https://events.barrons.com/investingintech/home  

16.06.21 21:06

79 Postings, 169 Tage timewalker3 Reasons Palantir's Future Looks Bright

Despite volatility in its stock, the data aggregation specialist looks poised for ongoing success.
he past several months have been a roller coaster for investors in data science software company Palantir Technologies (NYSE:PLTR). Palantir excited investors when it went public in September, but market sentiment toward the stock has cooled since then. Still, once you peel back the layers of Palantir's business, you'll find three reasons why this innovative and exciting company seems bound for brighter days ahead.

1. Data is growing exponentially
According to IBM, 90% of the entire world's data has been generated just in the past two years. As the various parts of the world currently without the internet continue to go digital, they'll create even more data with every email, text, website, or app.

However, these massive volumes of data are fragmented, coming from many and various sources. Imagine being given a puzzle with a trillion pieces and being asked to put it together. Companies may capture and store all this data, but they're just now realizing that they also need tools to manage it all.

Palantir offers those companies cutting-edge help. Its software formats an organization's data into a single, easily understood language that people can use to make decisions and instantly track their impact.
2. The US government has proven Palantir's value
The US government was the first organization to back Palantir in the early 2000s. While details about Palantir's government work are sparse, Palantir has helped the Department of Defense combat terrorism, and it was recently deployed to track the distribution of COVID-19 vaccinations in the US.

Investors should know the controversy that Palantir brings to the table. The company has placed itself into "sticky" public relations situations; its own employees have criticized the company for its work with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Striking a balance between the desires of your employees and your largest customer can be a delicate balancing act.

Palantir CEO Alex Karp has publicly sided with the government -- and that loyalty has helped Palantir land additional government projects. In the company's recent Q1 business update, management disclosed that government business had grown 83% year over year.

A handful of government contract wins have illustrated this growth in recent months:

$110 million from US Special Operations Command
$33 million from the US Space Force
$90 million from the National Nuclear Safety Administration
A potential $250 million from the US Army
The government is a tight-knit community where relationships and word of mouth make a difference. Palantir's years of proximity to the government have helped it win multiple contracts, strengthening its potential for future gains. Palantir derives 56% of its revenue from government clients -- its single largest customer. Losing that business could expose the company to devastating consequences.

However, as Palantir penetrates various branches of government, its business becomes more "sticky" and difficult to displace. While some companies have similar capabilities in managing data, such as Snowflake, C3.ai, and Alteryx, none currently can do it in a manner that is as integrated and seamless as Palantir. Palantir's Gotham platform can connect various government departments, enabling data from one to aid another. The company's 2020 annual report stated that Palantir wants to be the "default operating system" for all mission-critical data across the US government.

3. The private sector's long runway
The ability of Palantir's technology to simplify and provide insights into massive data pools is trickling into the private sector:

Pharmaceutical companies are using Palantir to help them find new drugs.
Bankers and insurers turn to Palantir to detect laundering and fraud.
Automotive manufacturers are using Palantir to trace quality defects to their origin in the factory.
Aviation companies are using Palantir to simplify supply chains, saving costs and time.
As companies save time and money through data management, competitors will seek similar tools to catch up (or maintain) a competitive edge.

Right now, Palantir's customer base is concentrated-just 149 customers, the top 20 of whom contributed roughly half of Palantir's total $1.2 billion of revenue in 2020. The private sector currently represents just 44% of Palantir's business. As industries continue to lean on technology (especially with 5G dramatically increasing connectivity), more companies will need to manage their data.

Palantir works with just a tiny fraction of the Fortune 500 (just 24 companies in the Global 300). But if Palantir can provide the same level of value in its software to businesses that it has to the government, we are looking at a massive runway for expansion over the years ahead.

Why Palantir has long-term upside
Palantir's share price has gone up and down lately for no specific reason. Volatility is typical for newly public stocks, and it often doesn't reflect on the business itself. Management is guiding revenue growth at a 30%+ average growth rate over the next four years -- and with a virtually untapped private sector and government revenue accelerating, that target looks achievable.

Earnings-based metrics such as the P/E ratio (price to earnings) won't tell you the whole story for tech growth stocks like Palantir, because right now, it's spending heavily to drive revenue growth. Instead, try weighing the company's enterprise value -- its market cap, plus all its cash, minus its debt -- against its annual sales. The company has pulled back from over 40x EV/sales in February to 29x EV/sales today.

However, as Palantir grows, its revenues begin to expand faster than its expenses -- fattening its profits. In Q1 2021, 49% year-over-year revenue growth helped to push adjusted operating income from last year's $16 million loss to a $117 million gain. In the year-ago period, Palantir burned $290 million in cash; thanks to growing sales, it posted $151 million in free cash flow in Q1. Palantir's expected to be profitable this year for the first time.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/06/16/...irs-future-looks-bright/  

17.06.21 05:24
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919 Postings, 3853 Tage marathon400Danke an alle

die so viel gute Infos hier ins Forum reinstellen. Super!
 

17.06.21 11:16
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169 Postings, 74 Tage TechandRenewableAward von Amazon AWS

Palantir: Best Covid19 Solution Foundry
https://aws.amazon.com/de/blogs/publicsector/...ector-partners-award/

Eine gute Nachricht nach der anderen. Am besten wäre natürlich ein positiver Bescheid der FDIC. Das soll ja heute verkündet werden  

17.06.21 11:58

556 Postings, 2090 Tage FrankNSteinKurzer Abriss des gestrigen

Barrons-Interviews mit Alex Karp.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/...-2021-6-1030529844
Mehr gibt's ohne Subscription bisher leider nicht.  

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