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29.05.09 22:13

9149 Postings, 6994 Tage Trilonerder

Meinung möcht ich mich anschliessen , sollten die 0,40 unterschritten werden, sind die Trendlinien durchbrochen , was dann ein Auftreffen der nächsten Linie zur Folge hätte und das ist die Linie bei 0,30 CAD.Die alten LOWs kommen so langsam ins Visier.

Also Fatschi alles voll im Griff und nicht madig machen ,nicht aus dem Konzept bringen lassen von den sog. Experten hier.
Das ENDE naht........wenn nix mehr kommt.Q2 garantiert wieder Verluste.Geld nur ausreichend bis Ende Juni 2009.
Wenn es keine Kapitalspritze gibt ist das hier "EMPTY".BIW  ist dann Bauruine !
Man sollte auf alles vorbereitet sein,bei Arise Technologies.
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Es gibt Leute,die gut zahlen,die schlecht zahlen, die prompt zahlen,die nie zahlen, die schleppend zahlen,die bar zahlen,abzahlen,heimzahlen ... nur Leute, die gern zahlen, die gibt es nicht!

29.05.09 22:24

9149 Postings, 6994 Tage Trilonerpalim

welche PR ?
alles grottenschlecht.
PR..... war meines wissens über die letzte HV,wenn man das PR nennen darf.Was die anderen schreiben,mutmaßen und kolpoltieren interessiert mich nicht die Bohne.
Hier geht es um Arise und ums Überleben .
Zahlen sind noch immer massgebend.und die sind nun mal grotte.
Und wenn weiter alles grotte,dann ab in die Inso,vielleiicht gibts dann doch noch eine Auffanggesellschaft innerhalb der 3.Monate.........aber nur vielleicht. Ansonsten wird hier alles verwertet.

Das Beispiel von SUNLINE in dieser Woche sollte da einem zu denken geben......,wenn das Kapital ausgeht,wenn keine weitere Kreditlinien genehmigt werden. Denn das Firmenkonzept und auch die Zahlen müssen passen.
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Es gibt Leute,die gut zahlen,die schlecht zahlen, die prompt zahlen,die nie zahlen, die schleppend zahlen,die bar zahlen,abzahlen,heimzahlen ... nur Leute, die gern zahlen, die gibt es nicht!

29.05.09 22:47

725 Postings, 5938 Tage PalimpalimTriloner

Geh doch Du zusammen mit Fatschi nach BIW und stell dort die gleichen Fragen wie du hier mutmaßt. Das würde doch Sinn machen. Dann brauchst Du nicht mehr rumrätseln. :-)  

29.05.09 23:00

9149 Postings, 6994 Tage Trilonerpalim

was soll ich BIW ?
Die Linie 2 ansehen ,die nicht ausgelastet ist und noch dazu eine hohe Fehlerquote hat ?

Fragen an die CEOs zustellen und die dann nicht ausreichend von denen beantwortet werdenoder ggf.belogen zu werden.
Nein, das brauche ich nicht ,gewiss nicht.

Diesem Verein glaube ich nicht mehr viel,leider.Anleger werden nicht ausreichend informiert was gespielt wird ,sei es hier in Deutschland,sei es  in Canada.

Das Vertrauen wird missbraucht und ist verspielt........!!!!!!
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Es gibt Leute,die gut zahlen,die schlecht zahlen, die prompt zahlen,die nie zahlen, die schleppend zahlen,die bar zahlen,abzahlen,heimzahlen ... nur Leute, die gern zahlen, die gibt es nicht!

29.05.09 23:04

1140 Postings, 6420 Tage Mic68Could Ontario Be the Next Germany?

Could Ontario Be the Next Germany?

The introduction of Ontario's Green Energy Act, modeled after Germany's successful feed-in tariff approach, is expected to fuel rapid growth of the clean energy market in the province.
by Greg Boutin and Jon Worren, Riverdale Partners
London, UK [Renewable Energy World Magazine]
If the Green Energy and Green Economy Act (Bill 150) is passed as expected in May 2009, Ontario will become the first North American jurisdiction with an incentive system modeled after German feed-in tariffs (FITs), according to incentive expert Paul Gipe. With proposed tariffs of up to 80.2 CAN cents/kWh (US$0.64/kWh, €0.47/kWh) for solar power generation, fixed and guaranteed for 20 years, the province would have the most favorable incentives currently available worldwide for roof-mounted systems below 100 kW. More lucrative, even, than current German incentives under the Renewable Energy Sources Act (EEG).

Ontario’s proposed Green Energy Act passed a second reading in March and was ordered to the Standing Committee on General Government for public comment, ending as REW goes to press. Changes to both the Act and the feed-in tariffs may still occur, but as it is almost certain to pass (the Act is supported by the Ontario Liberal Party, which controls 71 of the 107 seats in the Legislative Assembly), the Ontario government started a parallel process in February to work out the deployment details.

In a separate initiative, the Ontario government will also launch a C$250 million (€150 million) Emerging Technologies Fund, which should be operational on 1 July 2009. This fund will match investments from private sources, such as venture capital firms, in Ontario-based technology companies, including cleantech firms. It might, for example, be leveraged by innovative solar companies seeking to establish a broader presence in Ontario by developing technologies locally.

We believe that the combination of the Green Energy Act and the Emerging Technologies Fund will dramatically improve the business conditions for cleantech endeavours in Ontario. Combined with the province’s integration into the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) space, traditionally low manufacturing costs and abundant skilled workforce, this Act may actually turn Ontario into the most attractive beachhead for European and Asian renewable energy technology companies seeking to expand into North America.

This fund seems to be making a difference already. For instance, Nicolas Morgan, co-founder and vice president of Business Development at Morgan Solar, a Toronto-based venture developing a concentrating photovoltaic panel, observed: ‘For a while, it looked like Morgan Solar would have to move to the US to attract investments. As a young company with two products to commercialize in the next 12 months, we have been talking to a number of investors and have received offers of financing on condition that we move to the US. Ontario’s Green Energy Act and the Emerging Technology Fund may change all that. We are now hopeful that we can launch our venture in Ontario.’



How does Ontario compare to Germany?

Looking solely at installed capacity, Ontario and Canada are dwarfed by Germany. While Germany has over 5000 MW installed, the whole of Canada has less than 50 MW. California, the largest PV market in North America, has 530 MW by comparison. Capacity-wise, Ontario therefore has lots of catching-up to do, currently standing roughly where Germany was 20 years ago.

Comparing the inputs to the economics of energy is more flattering for Ontario. It might surprise even Canadians themselves to learn that Ontario receives more sunlight than Germany, which is located a little further north than the Canadian province. In fact, large parts of Ontario get 10%–15% more sunlight per year than southern Germany. (Left: Houses in the community with solar panels, credit Ontario Green Energy Act.)

Since the incentives take the form of a feed-in tariff in both Ontario and in Germany, as opposed to California where they are added to the electricity savings (through net metering), local electricity rates are less important to the return on investment for solar systems.

On the other hand, Ontario electricity rates are much lower than in both Germany and California, meaning that public support to expand the energy supply side has not been as strong as in those two jurisdictions. Instead, the political incentive used to motivate the Ontario public and justify the Green Energy Act has been the promise of a province free of coal-fired plants.

‘Ontario has the potential to become a mini-Germany,’ confirms Ian MacLellan, Systems Division president and founder of Ontario-based solar cell manufacturer ARISE Technologies. ‘Obviously, with 82 million inhabitants in Germany – more than six times as many as the 13 million in Ontario – we will never get the same volumes as in Germany. But, if our politicians and bureaucrats manage to make the process of developing solar systems as simple as it is in Germany, I would expect Ontario to see a development similar to that of Germany, only at a relatively smaller scale. We have to recognize that Germany, through their ‘1000 roofs’ programme (1990–1995) and later their ‘100,000 roofs’ programme (1999–2003), gained years of experience which we don’t have in Ontario, so even if the politicians have sought to learn from the German experience, I expect it will take time in Ontario as well. One cause for concern is the 100 MW cap which leads to an automatic 9% lowering of the tariffs, an uncertainty which I believe will keep some from investing in Ontario,’ he notes. (Left: The Sun Simba HCPV is a high concentrating photovoltaic system. It is not yet available, and is still in the prototype and testing stage of development. Credit: Morgan Solar)

Ontario FITs favour systems below 100 kW

MacLellan explains further the effect he anticipates from the suggested tariff structure on the type of photovoltaic projects that will be proposed: ‘At ARISE, we feel the feed-in tariffs play to our sweet-spot. On the other hand, developers of solar parks will probably be disappointed. If you take our previous estimate of 100 MW for 2010 we assume that 20% of the volume will be solar parks, 40% will be commercial rooftop systems between 10–500 kW and 40% will be residential and smaller systems up to 10 kW. In other words, we are looking at only four or five solar parks of a size of 4–5 MW next year.’

For systems up to 100 kW in size, the Ontario FITs at the recommended rates would be superior to the German FIT. That is especially true for residential and smaller rooftop installations with rates at 80.2 CAN cents/kWh (68 US cents/kWh) for rooftop solar photovoltaic systems below 10 kW. It’s worth noting that, in 2007, systems below 10 kW made up 40% of the German market – it appears that the Ontario FITs will stimulate a similar initial focus on smaller systems. And as with Germany, Ontario systems would benefit from a guaranteed 20-year fixed rate.

Interestingly, a handful of companies had already announced the development of large solar parks under the previous incentives, the Renewable Energy Standard Offer Program (RESOP), which paid a lower rate of 42 CAN cents/kWh (€0.25/kWh) to all solar project categories. In April 2008, for example, Toronto-based SkyPower and SunEdison of Baltimore launched the construction of their First Light solar park, a 19 MW project (broken down into two phases each falling under the current 10 MW threshold) consisting of more than 200,000 panels near Kingston, Ontario, and announced they would be pursuing six more projects.



Even though RESOP was suspended the following month, in May 2008 (according to our contacts at SunEdison, the First Light project was delayed as a result, but construction has resumed and is scheduled to be completed by August 2009), those companies may now find even a minimal 5.5% increase – from 42 CAN cents to 44.3 CAN cents (36 US cents to 38 US cents) – welcome, especially if it applies retroactively to projects they already saw as financially viable. To discuss this last possibility, the Ontario Power Authority recently called for comments on the application of the new incentives to ‘legacy’ projects.

Is it time to set up shop in Ontario?

The main criticism of the Act is that it does not establish long-term targets for renewable capacity. Some observers argue that regulatory policy stability is not guaranteed, and the minister concerned can still change policies if political priorities shift. While regulatory uncertainty remains indeed a source of risk, some cleantech companies have decided not to wait for more assurance from the government, and jumped in with announcements of new installations in Ontario.

Everbrite Solar, a division of Toronto-based Everbrite Industries, has licensed a turnkey manufacturing technology from an unnamed supplier overseas, to invest CAN$500 million (US$400 million, €300 million) in a photovoltaic manufacturing facility in Kingston, Ontario. Arizona-based First Solar and solar project developer Recurrent Energy of San Francisco acquired and are planning to develop multi-megawatt solar projects in Ontario, and thin-film module manufacturer Nanosolar Inc. is considering setting up a regional assembly plant in the province, according to a local newspaper.

It has been made clear that the Act will favour businesses with operations in Ontario and include requirements for a certain amount of domestic content (at a level yet to be decided). With the Ontario value chain in cleantech needing considerable strengthening, early movers are likely to see significant advantages. Apart from a handful of local manufacturers, additional suppliers are needed to get new projects off the ground. Ontario-based companies like ARISE Technologies, 6N Silicon, Timminco and Menova Energy are leading domestic players, but they all depend on outside partners to complement their offerings. This need is likely to create opportunities for best-in-class providers from Europe and Asia.

This sentiment was shared by Nicolas Morgan of Morgan Solar: ‘The proposed feed-in tariffs are well designed from a solar perspective. Currently, the province lacks capacity in the solar supply chain, so we believe there will be more wind projects in Ontario in the first couple of years. The fact that the province is committing to invest substantial amounts in a smart grid, however, means that the timing is perfect for companies like Morgan Solar.’

But MacLellan is less concerned with the supply chain: ‘Bottlenecks are not a problem for ARISE Technologies, but may be for newer companies in Ontario. ARISE probably has installed more rooftop systems in Ontario than anyone else and has established all the necessary partnerships in the supply chain. On the financing side we will rely on our international partners, at least until the Canadian banks enter the market with products.’

And other incentives to setting up operations in Ontario may help further build local R&D and manufacturing capabilities – chief among them, the Next Generation Job Fund, which covers 15% of the cost of establishing operations in Ontario for direct foreign investment, and generous R&D tax credits covering a wide range of activities. Universal healthcare and a federal pension plan, Ontario’s proximity to a market with over 400 million people through NAFTA, and a very cost-competitive workforce compared to the US (with the third largest manufacturing base in North America after Texas and California) complete the picture.

So, while this is not a foregone conclusion, the stars seem to increasingly align to make the Ontario market more attractive.

The path to success in Ontario

As we alluded in our previous article in Renewable Energy World magazine, Roadmap for A Changed Landscape: Consolidation and Integration in the Solar PV Business (Nov/Dec 2008), businesses with a winning formula must take advantage of international expansion opportunities such as those emerging in Ontario, or risk being rapidly outflanked by their competitors. With average factory gate prices of crystalline modules already 24% down on 2008 levels due to overcapacity, and module prices decreasing, favourable business environments like the ones being created in Ontario should be explored pro-actively.

However, uncertainty remains about the level of interest among businesses and home owners in Ontario in investing in rooftop systems in these constrained economic times, even with a good return on investment.

Indeed, the federal election results from October 2008 saw voters in Ontario reject party leader Stephane Dion’s proposed ‘Green Shift’. The Liberal party, who had put that initiative at the centre of its campaign, lost 7% of votes in Ontario, and the Green party failed to pick up a single seat in the province, suggesting that ‘green’ may not be as important for Ontarians as for Germans. After all, the Alliance90/Green Party holds 51 seats in the Bundestag, while its Canadian counterpart has seats in neither the federal parliament nor the provincial assembly. In this context, a market entry strategy in the residential and commercial segments should include a solid local awareness campaign built around the financial and societal benefits of a rooftop system.

Canada has not been impacted by the economic recession as much as the US has, but property prices have nonetheless fallen and businesses have considerably reduced their spending. With Canadian banks still some way from being able to offer financing products for retail and commercial solar systems, new entrants to the Ontario market should consider partnering with other financial institutions and PPA providers (such as SunEdison for commercial rooftops) to ensure they can offer a turnkey solution to prospective customers. (Left: Solar PV panels by Bright Solar Inc, a Toronto-based green energy company.)

Be it made of residential, commercial, or solar farm installations, or a mix thereof, any solar project portfolio should include a financial risk alleviation component, driven by a project mix diversification strategy, and tight management of the committed projects. For the latter, a well-articulated market strategy, bolstered by a targeted partnership and networking programme, will go a long way in facilitating the right financial and project development support.

Generating local goodwill would also help address the politically-motivated resistance to the subsidized programme that, left unaddressed, will inevitably gain further traction and likely derail solar projects and the progress of the province towards a cleaner energy mix. History has shown that the price to pay to address this problem after the fact was, too often, underestimated by the solar industry and its political supporters. It is especially regrettable since it can be tackled cost-effectively through a discerning awareness-building programme, making good use of innovative actions such as a social media campaign to build thought leadership and positive word-of-mouth around positive messages.

A point worth considering is to note that one in four Canadians are already on Facebook, and Toronto had the largest Facebook community until it was overtaken in 2007 by London, a characteristic that could be leveraged effectively to build local support for solar energy. A timely industry- and/or government-led grass roots awareness campaign would greatly help fuel exponential interest in the programme, and make sure that solar power really ignites in Ontario.

Greg Boutin and Jon Worren are independent partners co-operating together on projects, www.growthroute.com. E-mail: gregboutin@gmail.com or jon.worren@gmail.com  

29.05.09 23:07
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725 Postings, 5938 Tage PalimpalimNaja

Deine Einstellung ist nicht sehr glaubhaft,wenn Du hier nur am kritisieren bist und gleichzeitig die Chance nicht wahrnimmst aus 1 Hand Informationen zu bekommen, und mit dem Einwand wegwischt nur Lügen aufgetischt zu bekommen.
Überdies bist Du doch, glaub ich, garnicht investiert hier. Was ist denn dann Dein Interesse an Arise und warum bist Du so emotional ?  

29.05.09 23:21

665 Postings, 7008 Tage GlueckskeksIch bin einfach mal bei 0,28 € Eingestiegen.

Nach meiner Erinnerung war Arise doch neulich sehr gefragt. Jetzt muß ich hier so  eine miese Stimmung lesen. Was ist denn jetzt passiert?  Wieso seid ihr so frustriert? Es kann nicht immer super aufwärts gehen. Aber auch nicht runter. Jetzt ist Wochenende. Ich wußte heute Morgen schon, dass ich im laufe des Nachmittags noch mal für 0,28 € reinkomme. Von einem freundlichen Wochenstart gehe ich mal aus.
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01.06.09 10:26

1726 Postings, 5949 Tage FatschiAlles

01.06.09 11:58

194 Postings, 5916 Tage opel manmhm

01.06.09 16:30

1726 Postings, 5949 Tage FatschiTriloner

Kannste den Text mal bitte übersetzen...
Hello dear canadian people,

please wake up, Arise needs money and it seems that they wont get it!!!
Its 5 before 12 and thats why its so dangerous to be in here!
You always want to hear positive conversations and you dont accept critical facts.
I call it in german "blauäugig" that means in englisch "naive".
Its so high risky now, nothing comes from arise for its investors.
For me it seems, that soon comes the collapse and all the money is away, the money from me and the money from you! Anyway my money I rescues a couple of days ago.
Lets so how fast the 0,40 $ will break down today.

And I know later there will come the questions: "Why, red again, today?"
So I will watch it from the sideline!

A lot of greetings from Germany / Bavaria

Michaa  

01.06.09 17:09
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725 Postings, 5938 Tage PalimpalimLöschung


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01.06.09 17:22
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725 Postings, 5938 Tage PalimpalimAch Fatschi

hätte ich doch fast die Übersetzung für Dich vergessen.

Zusammenfassend kann man wohl sagen:

Arise ist pleite,fertig,im Arsch ;-)  

01.06.09 18:54

1726 Postings, 5949 Tage FatschiPalim

Ja,was denkst Du wohl,warum ich gerade diesen Artikel reingestellt habe...
PS:War nur ein Schoge auf Buli..
Den Rest wird mir ja der GF am Freitag kurz vor 12 berichten..
Hoffe mal,auch Du kannst holländisch?????
Sieeee jor leder  

01.06.09 19:47

725 Postings, 5938 Tage PalimpalimFatschi

Meine Fragen sind schon beantwortet. Ich hoffe der GF wird Dir Deine beantworten :-)  

02.06.09 09:06
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02.06.09 10:35
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02.06.09 12:38
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725 Postings, 5938 Tage PalimpalimKleine_Prinz

Du hast sicher recht,das hier einige Leute, eine zumindest fragwürdige ,,Show" abziehen. Aber das gehört nunmal dazu. So ein Aktienthread , spiegelt auch nur einen Querrschnitt der Gesellschaft wieder. Da findet man jeden Typ Mensch, den man auch im RL trifft. damit muss man sich arrangieren.
Aber in einer Sache kann ich Dich beruhigen. Den Kurs kann hier Niemand beeinflussen. Das geht schonmal nicht, weil die Heimatbörse in Can ist und dort die Kurse gemacht werden. Es kann schonmal vorkommen das in Deutschland ,durch gewisse Medien gesteigertes Interesse entsteht und die Umsätze höher als in CAN sind. Aber das ist eher die Ausnahme und nur kurzfristig.
Die Gründe warum bestimmte User eine Aktie hier pushen oder bashen,liegt wohl eher darin, das Sie gerne Spielchen spielen,Leute verunsichern, Unruhe reinbringen wollen usw. Sie erfreuen sich dann der Reaktionen,die sie bekommen. Wirklich anrichten können Sie damit Nichts,ausser vieleicht Den Einen oder Anderen damit nerven.
:-)  

02.06.09 16:26

27165 Postings, 6427 Tage brunnetahier was lesungswertes über Grünenergie in Kanada

http://www.fonds-depesche.de/...ct&catid=19:andere&Itemid=118
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02.06.09 17:46

1726 Postings, 5949 Tage FatschiPalim

Da bin ich mal auf den GF von Äreis gespannt..und die Seniorenbrigade an den Linien  

02.06.09 19:49

161 Postings, 6100 Tage Lady Blue@Fatschi

Hi Fatschi,

was sagt die Charttechnik?
Wird der Kurs unter die 0,40 $ brechen ?

Danke im Vorraus!
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02.06.09 21:10
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1772 Postings, 5999 Tage male2009Wirklich grosses Kino momentan hier...

Zitat:
Wenn das mal nicht unser Triloner oder wie er im WO genannt wird, Bulanz ist.
Wirklich sehr einfallsreich.
Keine Behauptung Triloner, reine Spekulation meinerseits :-)
Wenn ich mich täusche, entschuldige ich mich schonmal in aller Form bei Dir................aber ich glaube nicht ;-)

Oh, hallo...haben hier momentan alle die Zahlen und Fakten aus den Augen verloren??? Nur noch CT's und Spekulationen ??? Dabei sprechen die Zahlen Quartal für Quartal, was ARISE abgeliefert hat doch wohl eine eindeutige Sprache....!! Da nützt nunmal auch nicht nur ein CT...auch wenn er sicherlich Hand und Fuss hat...zumindest aus Sicht einer Berechnung...und diejenigen, die es beherrschen...Hut ab!!
Die Realität bei ARISE sind Quartal für Quartal Verluste!  

02.06.09 23:59
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725 Postings, 5938 Tage PalimpalimMale2009

Gehörst Du hier auch zur ,,Dreierbande" ?
Hier verliert Niemand die Zahlen und Fakten aus den Augen, aber einige Wenige wohl den Blick fürs Wesentliche :-)  

03.06.09 09:35

6635 Postings, 5950 Tage Kleine_prinzPalimpalim so ist es..

Schade das wir so spät mal ein wenig Flagge zeigen ;-)

ich denke das sollten wir weiter pflegen ich hab soviele Witze noch auf Lager *g*

Aber erstmal abwarten was sie sich wieder einfallen lassen ich finde sie schon genial *lach*

Erinnert mich an die zwei Opas von der  Muppet Show *g*

@Horusfalke danke lieben grüß zurück ;-)

 

 

 

03.06.09 11:13

1772 Postings, 5999 Tage male2009@palim

Ach ja?? Was ist denn das Wesentliche, wenn nicht die Zahlen, die ARISE Quartal für Quartal BLUTROT hervorbringt?? Ich lass mich da gern eines besseren von Dir belehren ! :-)  

03.06.09 12:00

665 Postings, 7008 Tage GlueckskeksZahlen? Alles Quatsch!

Hier wird gepokert. So wurden Typen wie Frick mit wertlosen Pennystocks reich.
Ihr dürft nicht soviel negatives Zeug quatschen. "Arise hört sich doch geil an."
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