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20752 Postings, 3964 Tage permanentÖkonomen streiten über Verteilungsfrage

 
  
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04.11.12 14:16
Wirtschaftswissenschaften : Ökonomen streiten über Verteilungsfrage 13:15 Uhr Ökonomen streiten über Verteilungsfrage

Die Einkommensungleichheit destabilisiert die Volkswirtschaften, sind

... (automatisch gekürzt) ...

http://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/international/...age/7328592.html

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8576 Postings, 1334 Tage zaphod42Ukrainer stürzen Lenin-Statue in Charkiw

 
  
    #26890
1
30.09.14 16:49

7839 Postings, 3776 Tage lumpensammlerEinfach genial, deine Kriegswitze

 
  
    #26891
1
30.09.14 16:51

8576 Postings, 1334 Tage zaphod42Wenn du deine eigene Haltung darin

 
  
    #26892
2
30.09.14 17:16
wiederfindest ist das Ziel erreicht. Im Gegensatz zu euch bin ich fähig, mich in meinen Diskussiongegner reinzuversetzen und seine Argumente zu assimilieren.

Eine schöne Gedankenübung, nicht nur beim Wechsel Bull<>Bear<>Bull, das hält die Flexibilität der grauen Zellen auf Trab.

Fill würde jetzt natürlich sagen: Da übt schonmal jemand für den Tag nach der Invasion Deutschlands durch Putin, doch Mitläufer werden an die Wand gestellt. Nein, fill, Mitläufer gerade nicht, sondern Leute die nicht umdenken können. Also du!  

7839 Postings, 3776 Tage lumpensammlerDas war dein bester seit langem, LOL

 
  
    #26893
1
30.09.14 17:23

225 Postings, 733 Tage PerimeterDas Sultansgrab ist türkisches Gebiet,

 
  
    #26894
30.09.14 17:23
wenn es angegriffen wird, ist der NATO-Bündnisfall da.

Da gibt es nichts zu diskutieren.  

8576 Postings, 1334 Tage zaphod42Jaja

 
  
    #26895
30.09.14 17:27
Nur sagt §5 der NATO-Statuten dass jedes Land selbst entscheidet welche Maßnamen es triff. Dreimal darfst du raten, welche Maßnahme für Grabschändung vorgesehen sind: Ein Ei drauf pellen...

Ist sowieso egal, weil die NATO schon IS bombt, mehr geht ja nicht.
 

8576 Postings, 1334 Tage zaphod42lumpi

 
  
    #26896
30.09.14 17:29
Danke. Ihr seid heute aber auch in humoresker Hochform, also Kompliment zurück.  

8796 Postings, 2306 Tage FillorkillSoldatenmütter

 
  
    #26897
2
30.09.14 17:33
Alle, die sich in Russland gegen Militarismus und autoritäre Massregelung stemmen, verdienen uneingeschränkten Support. Ihr Weg ist in diesem unfertigen Staat und einer eher feindlich aufgelegten postsowjetischen Umgebung in dieser Gesellschaft ungleich härter als für den Dissens im Westen, auch wenn die Denunziation als 'feindlicher Agent' hier ebenfalls zum Vokabular der Totalitären gehört. Die realistische Chance, als geostrategischer Kronzeuge missbraucht zu werden, entwertet nichts am richtigen Anliegen...
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"History that repeats itself turns to farce. Farce that repeats itself turns to history."

8576 Postings, 1334 Tage zaphod42#95

 
  
    #26898
1
30.09.14 17:36
Was mir hier Sorgen macht ist eher Erdogan, der erstens 35 arme Teufel mit Spielzeuggewehren opfern wird und zweitens das dann zum Anlass nehmen wird, in Syrien einzumarschieren. Dann hätte die NATO ein echtes Problem wenn die IS auf türkisches Gebiet zurückschlagen würde. Dieser Erdogan ist nicht nur größenwahnsinnig, sondern ein echtes Sicherheitsproblem.

Hier übrigens was zu seinem Größenwahn:

"Frankreichs Sonnenkönig Ludwig XIV. wäre heutzutage vielleicht lieber türkischer als französischer Staatschef. Seit Versailles brachte kaum ein Bauwerk den Machtanspruch eines Herrschers so prägnant zum Ausdruck wie der neue Amtssitz des türkischen Staatspräsidenten Recep Tayyip Erdogan: Der "Sultan" hat sich einen Palast bauen lassen, mit 1000 Räumen, der eine Botschaft hat: "Der Staat bin ich.""

http://www.welt.de/print/welt_kompakt/...s-Versailles-von-Ankara.html  

32734 Postings, 5451 Tage KickyHunderte Tote-bald ist Isis alle

 
  
    #26899
30.09.14 17:46
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Bei den vor einer Woche aufgenommenen Luftangriffen der USA und ihrer arabischen Verbündeten wurden nach Angaben der Beobachtungsstelle mehr als 200 IS-Kämpfer und 22 Zivilisten getötet. Neben den USA hat bislang auch Frankreich Luftangriffe im Irak geflogen, britische Kampfjets sind ebenfalls im irakischen Luftraum aktiv.


und dann noch das: 2 Zivilisten getötet,weil Kornsilos für Militärbasis gehalten wurden
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2773864/...-rights-group.html

und so kann das ja auch nix werden,wenn man laufend auf den Geheimdienst stösst beim Waffenkauf  http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/09/...rged-aiding-isis.html  

7839 Postings, 3776 Tage lumpensammlerHochrechnung #99

 
  
    #26901
3
30.09.14 18:12
Bei der TrefferRate 100/Monat und den bisher von der geneigten Presse veröffentlichten 40.000 IS Kämpfern macht das mal eben 400 Monate. Sprich im Jahr 2047 ist der Flecken IS frei. Wobei es am Ende etwas haarig werden könnte, die letzten 5 mit Tomahawks zu jagen.  

37914 Postings, 3799 Tage Anti LemmingÜberfordert von Ariva?

 
  
    #26902
30.09.14 18:16

8576 Postings, 1334 Tage zaphod42#01

 
  
    #26903
30.09.14 18:18
Nuke 'em

[Für Lumpi: Achtung Satire]  

37914 Postings, 3799 Tage Anti LemmingHier mal was Internationales

 
  
    #26904
30.09.14 18:36
Warum trinkt der Schotte Whisky, der Deutsche Bier, der Russe Wodka und der Italiener Wein? Antwort: Damit man die Völker bereits an der Fahne erkennt.  

8576 Postings, 1334 Tage zaphod42Der war gut, AL

 
  
    #26905
30.09.14 18:38
Bitte weiter so, ist deutlich unterhaltsamer als das ewig gleiche selbstgerechte Gesülze von fill & lumpi.  

37914 Postings, 3799 Tage Anti LemmingKlick noch auf den Virus

 
  
    #26906
30.09.14 18:39
in # 902, und dein Abend ist gerettet, äh gelaufen.

Und falls du das wirklich machst, poste nächste Woche (nach der Neuinstallation) mal, ob er gefährlich war.  

37914 Postings, 3799 Tage Anti LemmingP.S. für Zaphod

 
  
    #26907
30.09.14 19:06
Hab den zweiten Virus "CPU Kurzschluss" jetzt unter deiner ID getestet.

Funktioniert einwandfrei.

Poste dies jetzt gerade von meinem Smartphone...  
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8576 Postings, 1334 Tage zaphod42AL

 
  
    #26908
2
30.09.14 19:15
Hatte ich vorhin schon gemacht. Ich klicke immer auf alles wo draufsteht "Nicht Klicken". Plötzlich wurde mein Desktop mit Lemmingen geflooded.  

8576 Postings, 1334 Tage zaphod42Hab daraufhin meinen Rechner

 
  
    #26909
30.09.14 19:19
neu installiert. Hier bei der Arbeit am PCIe-Port meines 16384-Kern-CPU.  
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37914 Postings, 3799 Tage Anti LemmingRussen bringen neuen Raketentyp S400 in Stellung

 
  
    #26910
30.09.14 20:41
Die S400-Raketen haben eine Reichweite von 400 km und können Ziele bis in 50.000 Metern Höhe zerstören - u. a. anfliegende Interkontinental-Raketen. Das System wurde jetzt an Russlands Südgrenze in Betrieb genommen.

www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-30/...tem-guard-its-southern-frontiers

As Xinhua reports, Russia activates S-400 missile systems in south to guard frontiers

Russia has activated an air defense regiment armed with advanced S-400 surface-to-air missile systems in the Southern Military District to guard its southern frontiers, the Russian military said Tuesday.

"An air defense missile regiment from the Fourth Command of the Air Force and Air Defense entered into service in the Krasnodar region. It is equipped with S-400 Triumph advanced missile systems and Pantsir-S air defense missile and gun complex," the Southern Military District's press service said in a statement.

Earlier this month, the S-400 systems arrived at their permanent base after completing tests at the Ashuluk firing range in southern Astrakhan region.

During the tests, they successfully destroyed high-speed targets simulating incoming ballistic missiles and other aerial targets.

In August, Russia also announced plans to deploy its newest S-500 air defense systems to protect Moscow and central regions.

Alexei Zolotukhin, a spokesperson for Russia's Aerospace Defense Forces, said Monday that 12 missile regiments will receive the S-400 systems by 2020.

The S-400 system, which can engage targets at a maximum range of up to 400 km at an altitude of 40,000-50,000 meters, is expected to form the cornerstone of Russia's air defense by 2020.

The S-500 systems will have an extended range of up to 600 km and is capable of engaging up to 10 targets simultaneously.  
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37914 Postings, 3799 Tage Anti LemmingWie man sich gegen solche Schläge schützen kann

 
  
    #26911
30.09.14 20:45
Vor allem die Aktentasche auf dem Kopf ist wichtig.

(speziell für Daiphong)

www.puppenhausmuseum.de/mediapool/42/426491/...10108977_0_444-409.jpg  
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37914 Postings, 3799 Tage Anti LemmingUschi trommelt (Fortsetzung)

 
  
    #26912
30.09.14 20:48

32734 Postings, 5451 Tage KickyThe War the Pentagon Was Hoping For

 
  
    #26913
30.09.14 20:52
September 28, 2014  |  

As the U.S. escalates its bombing campaign against ISIS (or IS or ISIL), U.S. officials seem to have found an enemy we can all love to hate and fear.  ISIS beheads hostages, conducts brutal ethnic cleansing and has links to Al-Qaeda.  DC power players have eagerly embraced a small war made to order to restore America's wounded military pride after the first Iraq debacle.

The contrived nature of the narrative presented by U.S. officials was evident from the outset if one cared to look behind the propaganda screen.  As the U.S. bombing campaign began, German Left Party MP Ulla Jelpke told a  press conference in Rojava (Syrian Kurdistan) on August 11th that the Yazidis on Mount Sinjar were rescued by the Kurdish PKK, who the U.S. government classifies as "terrorists."  Refugees told Jelpke that they were saved by "Allah and the PKK," not by U.S. bombing.  

Ulla Jelpke hailed the PKK as the most effective force fighting ISIS and other jihadis in Syria and Iraq, and she condemned Turkey for its role on the other side, providing bases, training and support to the jihadis.  ..

... Journalist Judit Neurink, who has spent the past 5 years training local journalists in Erbil in Iraqi Kurdistan, told Belgium's De Standaard newspaper that reports of ISIS massacres were exaggerated and based mainly on rumors.   De Standaard asked, "Is the United States' bombing based on a false hypothesis?"  She replied, "Yes.  The US is bombing because the battle was approaching too close to Erbil, where a small American base lies.  The Yazidis are useful to add a humanitarian sauce.  Indeed there are also Christians fleeing.  But if you act only for the Christians, other religious communities in the world would attack you.  Now this Yazidi tragedy suited the Americans politically and the stories are exaggerated.  Terrible things happen and have happened, that's a fact.  But we have no numbers, no details."  

But the Yazidis served their purpose for U.S. propaganda.  The line was crossed, the bombing was under way and the United States was at war in Iraq… again.  It would be naive to think that U.S. intelligence agencies knew less of the real picture than Jelpke and Neurink.  But the domestic propaganda campaign has succeeded and a majority of Americans tell pollsters they approve of the bombing.  The U.S. is building a "coalition of the willing" on a similar basis, persuading allies of the political benefits of aligning with U.S. policy.  But the U.S. coalition excludes all three forces that are best placed to resist and marginalize ISIS: the Syrian Army; the PKK; and Iraq's Sunni tribes.

After initially helping to drive out Iraqi government death squads, ISIS has outlived its purpose to Sunni Arab tribal leaders in northern and western Iraq.  Most Sunni Iraqis don't want to be part of a fundamentalist Islamic state like Saudi Arabia, where  19 people were beheaded in August for offenses ranging from witchcraft to drug possession.   Most Iraqi Sunnis just want civil and political rights in their own country, Iraq.  But they justifiably fear the return of Shiite death squads more than they fear ISIS.

After Shiite militiamen killed 70 people at a Sunni mosque in Diyala province on September 22nd,  a reporter for the Guardian embedded with a group of militiamen in Diyala reported, "For these men, the Sunnis as a whole are the enemy, regardless of whether they are ISIS supporters or not."  One militiaman told the Guardian that they do not kill women, children or old people, implying that adult men are a different story, but another told the Guardian, "When I liberate an area from ISIS, why do I have to give it back to them?  Either I erase it or settle Shia in it."  Another added, "If it's for me, I will start cleansing Baghdad from today."    

....Meanwhile the U.S. bombing campaign is enhancing ISIS' prestige, helping it to attract an estimated  6,000 new recruits since August.  If the goal of U.S. policy was to make a dire situation worse for the people of Syria and Iraq, it's hard to see how we could do a better job of it.

Like the current bombing campaign, the short-lived victory over Iraq in 1991, which ultimately led to the present crisis, was designed with another, distinctly political, purpose in mind: to save the Cold War U.S. military from the threat of substantial disarmament.  On the basis of that war, U.S. officials adapted their Cold War military machine from the nominally defensive purpose that had justified building it in the first place to a force that aspired to "full-spectrum dominance" of the entire planet, based on huge investments in surveillance and weapons technology.  But instead of being a force for stability and security as U.S. leaders claim, the U.S. post-Cold War military has achieved the exact opposite, depriving millions of people in dozens of countries of whatever stability and security they previously enjoyed, at the cost of more than  $10 trillion dollars to U.S. tax-payers.

...While most Americans saw the end of the Cold War as a chance for peace, many U.S. officials saw it as a new chance for war.  Pentagon adviser Michael Mandelbaum  told the New York Times, "For the first time in 40 years, we can conduct military operations in the Middle East without worrying about triggering World War III"....And President Bush rejected Iraqi offers to withdraw from Kuwait and avoid the war that would save the U.S. military industrial complex.

Following Bush's model, Obama's coalition-building gives his war a veneer of legitimacy, but it will also open up new markets for U.S. weapons makers.  In 1991, after a bombing campaign that killed tens of thousands of Iraqis and inflicted destruction that a UN report called  "near-apocalyptic", U.S. planes and pilots were dispatched straight to the  Paris Air Show to drum up new business for U.S. weapons makers.  The next two years set new records for U.S. arms exports, and the U.S. has maintained a 40% share of global arms exports ever since.

At $600 billion it is higher today than at the peak of the Vietnam War or the Reagan arms build-up.  Giving credit where credit is due for its long-term effect on global military spending, the First Gulf War may have been the most expensive war ever fought.

Similar interests are at work today.  All four major U.S. weapons makers have hit  all-time highs on the stock market since the bombing began: Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and, not least, General Dynamics, the family firm of  Chicago's Crown family, who have bankrolled much of Barack Obama's political career.

The war on ISIS already has a winner: The defense industry
http://fortune.com/2014/09/13/defense-industry-winner-against-isis/  

...Another disquieting parallel between 1990 and 2014 is that Saddam Hussein and ISIS were both creations of the CIA.The CIA hired 22-year-old Saddam Hussein in 1959 to assassinate General Qasim, the revolutionary leader who overthrew the Western-backed Iraqi monarchy in 1958.  The plot failed and the CIA whisked Hussein to safety in Beirut, wounded in the leg by one of his fellow assassins, then to Cairo, where he was a regular visitor at the U.S. Embassy.

With CIA support, the Baath Party overthrew and killed Qasim in 1963, and Hussein rose through its ranks to become President of Iraq.  The U.S. and other Western allies supplied him with weapons to wage war with Iran, including  chemical weapons and DIA satellite intelligence to target them.  Two months after Hussein used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurdish villages,  Donald Rumsfeld arrived in Baghdad to negotiate closer relations and reopen the U.S. Embassy.  Only when Hussein invaded U.S. ally Kuwait did he become the new bete noir of U.S. propaganda.

The U.S. and its allies have spent 3 years  deploying and arming proxy forces to overthrow the government of Syria: flying in weapons and jihadis from Libya in  unmarked NATO planes; setting up  command centersand training camps in  Jordan, Turkey and now  Saudi Arabia; throwing open the Turkish border to flood Syria with  special forces, jihadis and weapons from  Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the Balkans and elsewhere; cynically scheming to  undermine the Annan peace plan in 2012; and rejecting abundant evidence that U.S. proxies in Syria were more brutal and dangerous than the government they were sacrificing the people of Syria to overthrow.  Now that the propaganda bubble has burst in President Obama's face, ISIS has become America's new bete noir, or should we say "the new Saddam Hussein"?  ........

http://www.alternet.org/world/...c-extremists-war-pentagon-was-hoping
 

32734 Postings, 5451 Tage KickyThe Fake Terror Threat Used To Justify Bombing in

 
  
    #26914
30.09.14 21:14
Syria
By Glenn Greenwald and Murtaza Hussain

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/28/...stify-bombing-syria/

As the Obama Administration prepared to bomb Syria without congressional or U.N. authorization, it faced two problems. The first was the difficulty of sustaining public support for a new years-long war against ISIS, a group that clearly posed no imminent threat to the “homeland.” A second was the lack of legal justification for launching a new bombing campaign with no viable claim of self-defense or U.N. approval.

The solution to both problems was found in the wholesale concoction of a brand new terror threat that was branded “The Khorasan Group.” After spending weeks depicting ISIS as an unprecedented threat — too radical even for Al Qaeda! — administration officials suddenly began spoon-feeding their favorite media organizations and national security journalists tales of a secret group that was even scarier and more threatening than ISIS, one that posed a direct and immediate threat to the American Homeland. Seemingly out of nowhere, a new terror group was created in media lore.

The unveiling of this new group was performed in a September 13 article by the Associated Press, who cited unnamed U.S. officials to warn of this new shadowy, worse-than-ISIS terror group:    At the center is a cell known as the Khorasan group, a cadre of veteran al-Qaida fighters from Afghanistan and Pakistan who traveled to Syria to link up with the al-Qaida affiliate there, the Nusra Front.

   But the Khorasan militants did not go to Syria principally to fight the government of President Bashar Assad, U.S. officials say. Instead, they were sent by al-Qaida leader Ayman al-Zawahiri to recruit Europeans and Americans whose passports allow them to board a U.S.-bound airliner with less scrutiny from security officials.

AP warned Americans that “the fear is that the Khorasan militants will provide these sophisticated explosives to their Western recruits who could sneak them onto U.S.-bound flights.” It explained that although ISIS has received most of the attention, the Khorasan Group “is considered the more immediate threat.”

On the morning of September 18, CBS News broadcast a segment that is as pure war propaganda as it gets: directly linking the soon-to-arrive U.S. bombing campaign in Syria to the need to protect Americans from being exploded in civilian jets by Khorasan. .....

Later that day, Obama administration officials began publicly touting the group, when Director of National Intelligence James Clapper warned starkly: “In terms of threat to the homeland, Khorasan may pose as much of a danger as the Islamic State.” Then followed an avalanche of uncritical media reports detailing this Supreme Threat, excitingly citing anonymous officials as though they had uncovered a big secret the government was trying to conceal.

On September 20, The New York Times devoted a long article to strongly hyping the Khorasan Group. Headlined “U.S. Suspects More Direct Threats Beyond ISIS,”....

This Khorasan-attacking-Americans alarm spread quickly and explosively in the landscape of U.S. national security reporting. The Daily Beast‘s Eli Lake warned on September 23 — the day after the first U.S. bombs fell in Syria — that “American analysts had pieced together detailed information on a pending attack from an outfit that informally called itself ‘the Khorasan Group’ to use hard-to-detect explosives on American and European airliners.” ....

On the first day of the bombing, The Washington Post announced that “the United States also pounded a little-known but well-resourced al-Qaeda cell that some American officials fear could pose a direct threat to the United States.”....

The same day, CNN claimed that “among the targets of U.S. strikes across Syria early Tuesday was the Khorasan Group.” The bombing campaign in Syria was thus magically transformed into an act of pure self-defense, given that ”the group was actively plotting against a U.S. homeland target and Western targets,--....

The day following the first bombings, Attorney General Eric Holder claimed: “We hit them last night out of a concern that they were getting close to an execution date of some of the plans that we have seen.”

The very next day, a Pentagon official claimed a U.S. airstrike killed “the Khorasan leader,” and just a few days after that, U.S. media outlets celebrated what they said was the admission by jihadi social media accounts that “the leader of the al Qaeda-linked Khorasan group was killed in a U.S. air strike in Syria.”

But once it served its purpose of justifying the start of the bombing campaign in Syria, the Khorasan narrative simply evaporated as quickly as it materialized. Foreign Policy‘s Shane Harris, with two other writers, was one of the first to question whether the “threat” was anywhere near what it had been depicted to be:.....

On September 25, The New York Times — just days after hyping the Khorasan threat to the homeland — wrote that “the group’s evolution from obscurity to infamy has been sudden.” And the paper of record began, for the first time, to note how little evidence actually existed for all those claims about the imminent threats posed to the homeland:

   American officials have given differing accounts about just how close the group was to mounting an attack, and about what chance any plot had of success. One senior American official on Wednesday described the Khorasan plotting as “aspirational” and said that there did not yet seem to be a concrete plan in the works....

Literally within a matter of days, we went from “perhaps in its final stages of planning its attack” (CNN) to “plotting as ‘aspirational’” and “there did not yet seem to be a concrete plan in the works” (NYT).

Late last week, Associated Press’ Ken Dilanian — the first to unveil the new Khorasan Product in mid-September — published a new story explaining that just days after bombing “Khorasan” targets in Syria, high-ranking U.S. officials seemingly backed off all their previous claims of an “imminent” threat from the group.

Even more remarkable, it turns out the very existence of an actual “Khorasan Group” was to some degree an invention of the American government. NBC’s Engel, the day after he reported on the U.S. government’s claims about the group for Nightly News, seemed to have serious second thoughts about the group’s existence...

There are serious questions about whether the Khorasan Group even exists in any meaningful or identifiable manner. Aki Peritz, a CIA counterterrorism official until 2009, told Time: “I’d certainly never heard of this group while working at the agency,” ....

What happened here is all-too-familiar. The Obama administration needed propagandistic and legal rationale for bombing yet another predominantly Muslim country. While emotions over the ISIS beheading videos were high, they were not enough to sustain a lengthy new war.......  

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